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* Bug: Capture template file source variant support in Customize [8.3.4 (8.3.4-47-gaf853d-elpa @ /home/phil/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20160502/)]
@ 2016-05-07 14:21 Phil Hudson
  2016-05-10 21:21 ` Nicolas Goaziou
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Phil Hudson @ 2016-05-07 14:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode



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what in fact did happen.  You don't know how to make a good report?  See

     http://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback

Your bug report will be posted to the Org-mode mailing list.
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Expected: When using the Customize interface to create/edit an Org
capture template, we expect to be able to specify a file to write the
captured item into using (according to the documentation) any one of:
  * a literal filename
  * a function
  * a variable
  * a form
But the Customize UI supports only the first of these. The attached
patch adds Customize support for the other three variants, in the proper
order (increasing generality/decreasing specificity).

Note that using Lisp to specify a capture template's target file using a
function, variable or sexp *does* work fine and as documented, except
that thereafter Customize fails to present the resulting variable
correctly; it reverts to showing the alist as one Lisp form. This patch
simply "catches up" the Customize UI with what Org can do and is
documented as doing.

As a workaround, I fell back on using the alternative 'function' target
specification method. That is, it's an alternative to 'file'; not to be
confused with the 'function' sub-method of 'file'. It took some rooting
around in source code for me to understand exactly what this function
has to do. It has to visit a file and optionally move point. Overkill
for my initial requirement, which was simply to produce a date-including
filename, but I made it work*, rather than lose the Customize UI. Anyway,
the documentation was too vague, and this patch also fixes that.

I have signed the FSF papers.  

* pending your acceptance of this patch, at which point I can revert to
  the simpler filename-producing function I wanted to use initially.
  
-- 
Phil Hudson                   http://hudson-it.ddns.net
@UWascalWabbit                 PGP/GnuPG ID: 0x887DCA63


--- org-20160502/org-capture.el	2016-05-07 10:18:26.000000000 +0100
+++ org.patched/org-capture.el	2016-05-04 11:54:23.000000000 +0100
@@ -157,8 +157,8 @@
                 File to the entry that is currently being clocked
 
              (function function-finding-location)
-                Most general way, write your own function to find both
-                file and location
+                Most general way: write your own function which both visits the
+                file and moves point to the right location.
 
 template     The template for creating the capture item.  If you leave this
              empty, an appropriate default template will be used.  See below
@@ -299,7 +299,11 @@
 		  (choice :tag "Target location"
 			  (list :tag "File"
 				(const :format "" file)
-				(file :tag "  File"))
+                  (choice :tag "  Filename"
+                    (file :tag "  Literal")
+                    (function :tag "  Function")
+                    (variable :tag "  Variable")
+                    (sexp :tag "  Form")))
 			  (list :tag "ID"
 				(const :format "" id)
 				(string :tag "  ID"))

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* Re: Bug: Capture template file source variant support in Customize [8.3.4 (8.3.4-47-gaf853d-elpa @ /home/phil/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20160502/)]
  2016-05-07 14:21 Bug: Capture template file source variant support in Customize [8.3.4 (8.3.4-47-gaf853d-elpa @ /home/phil/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20160502/)] Phil Hudson
@ 2016-05-10 21:21 ` Nicolas Goaziou
  2016-05-10 22:12   ` Phil Hudson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2016-05-10 21:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Phil Hudson; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hello,

Phil Hudson <phil.hudson@iname.com> writes:

> Expected: When using the Customize interface to create/edit an Org
> capture template, we expect to be able to specify a file to write the
> captured item into using (according to the documentation) any one of:
>   * a literal filename
>   * a function
>   * a variable
>   * a form
> But the Customize UI supports only the first of these. The attached
> patch adds Customize support for the other three variants, in the proper
> order (increasing generality/decreasing specificity).
>
> Note that using Lisp to specify a capture template's target file using a
> function, variable or sexp *does* work fine and as documented, except
> that thereafter Customize fails to present the resulting variable
> correctly; it reverts to showing the alist as one Lisp form. This patch
> simply "catches up" the Customize UI with what Org can do and is
> documented as doing.

Sounds good. 

However, wouldn't it make sense to also add these types to other file
related target locations, e.g., "File & Headline", "File & Outline
path"... ?

Also, could you provide a patch using `git format-patch'?

Thank you.

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

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* Re: Bug: Capture template file source variant support in Customize [8.3.4 (8.3.4-47-gaf853d-elpa @ /home/phil/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20160502/)]
  2016-05-10 21:21 ` Nicolas Goaziou
@ 2016-05-10 22:12   ` Phil Hudson
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Phil Hudson @ 2016-05-10 22:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

On Tue, 10 May 2016 at 10:21:12 pm BST, Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Phil Hudson <phil.hudson@iname.com> writes:
>
>> Expected: When using the Customize interface to create/edit an Org
>> capture template, we expect to be able to specify a file to write the
>> captured item into using (according to the documentation) any one of:
>>   * a literal filename
>>   * a function
>>   * a variable
>>   * a form
>> But the Customize UI supports only the first of these. The attached
>> patch adds Customize support for the other three variants, in the proper
>> order (increasing generality/decreasing specificity).
>>
>> Note that using Lisp to specify a capture template's target file using a
>> function, variable or sexp *does* work fine and as documented, except
>> that thereafter Customize fails to present the resulting variable
>> correctly; it reverts to showing the alist as one Lisp form. This patch
>> simply "catches up" the Customize UI with what Org can do and is
>> documented as doing.
>
> Sounds good. 
>
> However, wouldn't it make sense to also add these types to other file
> related target locations, e.g., "File & Headline", "File & Outline
> path"... ?

Thanks for the perceptive feedback. I hadn't even thought about it. Your
suggestion definitely sounds like the right thing to do. I'll be back
with a fuller patch, properly gitted and committed.

-- 
Phil Hudson                   http://hudson-it.ddns.net
@UWascalWabbit                 PGP/GnuPG ID: 0x887DCA63

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