From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Joost Kremers Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2016 10:49:25 +0200 Message-ID: <87r3b7i222.fsf@fastmail.fm> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1467795102 10048 80.91.229.3 (6 Jul 2016 08:51:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 08:51:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Etienne Prud'homme , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 06 10:51:31 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bKiYN-0000xV-4n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 10:51:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60276 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bKiYM-00024J-EG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 04:51:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43863) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bKiWk-00012i-Tx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 04:49:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bKiWh-0002zU-OE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 04:49:50 -0400 Original-Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]:41059) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bKiWf-0002vB-C6; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 04:49:47 -0400 Original-Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id A472A203E1; Wed, 6 Jul 2016 04:49:31 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 06 Jul 2016 04:49:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.fm; h=cc :content-type:date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=SEtrN3ghQgHA1gki r9d8WXzaeLA=; b=MJPYq0KBXoEwJ2A3fcQeNUOpEEDkJd5RYKxSqpkKEuSda1+2 VkDHwQua5EFrUo4ujVSv/dziIkoK/GDOf9TJNQIG6uT4BtuXyWbOBWoGtVxcXVJW 4CRozHFBDIomgI0TzL5dJBeiudrZrF1aY6iV51QYubNo+isoeLLxHAJ2gnU= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s= smtpout; bh=SEtrN3ghQgHA1gkir9d8WXzaeLA=; b=csGgJokRV0OfK1MqRAb9 Mk23CUV+qyIsh9sZ3kZsw18/BmC+MWCyP2PJoUc5kFzTHWnkp5uSXl8j+yoFaWpt R1pUnX8I2BQj0e0VNI4OSMx8ZHyR3kQAJTS5TBFVJHDXF9gB1UfWhTMcEWbnwTMs mOXFTCVIBKLAkoU4A4BCnuA= X-Sasl-enc: vkwmWN6mcKOs5vdFLWU4raT/oVls0WyoWNAYr2iGpshU 1467794971 Original-Received: from IdeaPad.messagingengine.com (eruc064.goemobile.de [134.76.38.64]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E6E31CCD26; Wed, 6 Jul 2016 04:49:30 -0400 (EDT) User-agent: mu4e 0.9.17; emacs 25.0.94.1 In-reply-to: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 66.111.4.27 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205240 Archived-At: On Tue, Jul 05 2016, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > Using > > Org-mode, I can select a project and configure org-mode in a way that > > it would generate a time report and a summary of my work. That report > > could then be exported in a convenient file format and be given to my > > client. > > Since projects generally have different files (or even different > directories), the usual Emacs way to handle this would be that if you > visit something in one project and look for the todo list, you get > that project's todo list. To be fair, the OP (the attribution is missing, so I'm not sure who you're responding to) was talking about a "time report and a summary of [their] work", which is more than just the todo list. > That has the advantage that it requires no special knowledge or > configuration. Yeah, but that's trivial, isn't it? I mean, I could (in fact, sometimes do) keep an Org file in a project's directory with a todo list in it and if I want to see the project's todo list, I just open that Org file. Actually using the todo list effectively will require investing some time in learing the mode itself, regardless of whether I use todo-mode or org-mode. -- Joost Kremers Life has its moments