From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#29735: 27.0.50; It must be possible to suspend all timers Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2017 19:43:48 +0100 Message-ID: <87r2rtqjob.fsf@gmx.de> References: <878te28zas.fsf@gmx.de> <837etmskvi.fsf@gnu.org> <871sjt3eoe.fsf@gmx.de> <83efntqswc.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1513536140 6487 195.159.176.226 (17 Dec 2017 18:42:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2017 18:42:20 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) Cc: 29735@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 17 19:42:16 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eQdt8-00019q-QB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Sun, 17 Dec 2017 19:43:49 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83efntqswc.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 17 Dec 2017 17:24:35 +0200") X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:VGP1G+rf+ORZOV4AseZpKAUVtxa5YpfC5p6EEJQP128cIaAhnAa 6kedsC/0H0GGRLPtolTd/khGZV7c+AfOeRAUgiwohkpYT++fAfxay9xYPkTCCzniunzcz0f 9K6OnP8WIju4EHNXvQZCMickxg1uoGrcKhNlHr7Fx3LjsdX6OAL892ql9yE+jT6CvYqC5z1 yOTC1LdSrJXkH8jNRjeLQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:Lo6Z0vJufSg=:pyKF5Cz0c8sDCPssraJrdA 1XQe4glQW27uLjsTuA9PDZZz/ItdDYvE+bMINmIOB5JU9Tq8o/y7iW7iJv+9a7u4Gf+smSLwr 2zk86SWOvSHCdMogtVLUX0mfM6D7gVPCI4dmy5Q1Mw5zJEpUe8Z3qPm6KOOt3ehnwoSR/+y7P MWxyohybwpTXVTmBJbOUy4bpHYZO60ehJ3hbP8TAfEsTHauRMh5TZNaJKcgcpKOJyi/5JNE2H bpUiomCq+R6cmmpjdXeiSCM6DET55l8kEhtMBC+XaHLBYJyJ1WA6oMz4efnv1AgL6/Mf7jCQw xFVkI5cc8mTOjtbwjoXM46eFEtkCPWnkYG1nAACtoHPgLH9Skq0tXjeEKdKZXGUjApyumKFKS +1aewBmZImPgN9n/c62TYqIPa24vbthufMcKrWdxba0ajv0ganracYzzfQnsYnAkWXHKLH9cc SHA2S7/j8Ia98SELu2JeMHmYsVhKf6LOoUXxzD2Cozul2L05RP1jp9KCL6Eq8DQaqliCgkWBo Wro6Lz9xgw6rya5CHhj+q0brqVnMzzQz7la8q17LW0wSw8XZS+vQbFBEiiWIaJ/JuoeKRmkS7 hHefCBwAkAdWMKOiVrXPZmBUZmCNoYpT4lkAZADbr5T73iNSfUK6kPfUWr8YcIy2oMGEIEoZp BgLH+pDCTHxbkbgj0zjT4Kb4OEIKKLiofyEBjcKxLSgk+y3AIgsTHF/mXP67ah/ku6X8Z3KBX OjwfrmaplKJpVZtD1hgeuwbucoY8PH+zUk0pk5XJxxNSSjJW1wNPcImtAlCmzQjvg0VPZR1k X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:141207 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: Hi Eli, >> When another asynchronous process is needed, for example due to the call >> of `start-file-process', Tramp starts that asynchronous process calling >> ssh (for example). After that, initialization happens, including >> password handling, setting the remote shell, cd'ing to the working >> directory, calling the indicated command, and so on. During that time, >> Tramp is instructed to use another process buffer. See for example >> `tramp-sh-handle-start-file-process', where you find the lines >> >> ;; Set the new process properties. >> (tramp-set-connection-property v "process-name" name) >> (tramp-set-connection-property v "process-buffer" buffer) > > Not sure I follow: are you changing process-buffer of a process, or do > you have more than one process sharing the same process-buffer? Or > something else? Several processes, every one owns a separate process buffer. But the basic Tramp operations don't know which process is involved, therefore the actual process is kept via the process connections "process-name" and "process-buffer". > I guess I don't know how to interpret "Tramp is instructed to use > another process buffer". Who in this context is "Tramp", if there are > multiple async processes involved, each one with its own buffer? "Tramp" means the low level functions which communicate with processes. Something like `tramp-send-command', `tramp-send-string' or `tramp-maybe-open-connection'. Best regards, Michael.