From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: ESC vs Meta for shifted keys Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 10:49:33 +0200 Message-ID: <87r2nkq06a.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87d0z71985.fsf@gmail.com> <20180410164730086770438@bob.proulx.com> <20180411131107072594795@bob.proulx.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1523522902 28800 195.159.176.226 (12 Apr 2018 08:48:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 08:48:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 12 10:48:18 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6Xtx-0007OL-U1 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 10:48:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48769 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f6Xw4-0000F6-Gv for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 04:50:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37671) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f6XvH-0000DQ-Lp for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 04:49:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f6XvE-0004AO-FU for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 04:49:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wr0-x230.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c0c::230]:40310) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f6XvE-0004A9-7U for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 04:49:36 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wr0-x230.google.com with SMTP id v60so372945wrc.7 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 01:49:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list :date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version; bh=SPi+mcMU0vTEpR1CIWpNezYxedia6psJZgA0AI9XkKU=; b=cL8cieX2faHC6kmrSrWPpdN5xLJku1jiQaN2Hlp94qnQ09vWD7ehzdsaBYLXBXoagX 5HLRV+P7sDMm09X96HITfyvATdZrpXXFd70oyiyf7+ZMiNiKTlgdAJlrSNSvhwwSGeoC embGUJNW45MkV+r+qU8zjySRLcvJ5IU3fTkKgV3z85StgtwrWcrOykML/yV4AEQULkpy cgDjeBh2sauAvymel0KB4AKnMDFFDd618Pi1EEwiPeSoz0jcIvouSXI5coWSOSRlHNxw ygO5fS4K5p3CLnlwd927gmkekbFj/VQriIMNF0UOTErYMkeRhIcRpWcCw5ppoeaUFEtG es2A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version; bh=SPi+mcMU0vTEpR1CIWpNezYxedia6psJZgA0AI9XkKU=; b=GKoFdIzcCq5jb7TJT5IC/4T5fKqpOQjFRHuEUzYFlJgSam0MvzG6WmMfJTJDY5bqs8 WklUoJeK2V5FpOGWtyBfSWo1Y5boZwLp1CzLnswHlTqfHx/0fDSI0c7J2dpqrZ7/7Ixu 5jJ4jjFDLyqyKfHFNwLo2erGmFkcxAn21M4ATwpTsReX0a3u6Ro5zAw9/8ioHNDGQK0o 2Ttgqks9fg8r5w43gHZurhP+PLKHTb3AMrbiHaoSi1ObfbcRiata4M6xGKxQXD4ujh29 mqh5GTKDdz7HbJxowThAsrq6SVLmyA1PMnpjEZrS27L1P8qqhMxFdq86i8gsvB8YZL0c 7lXg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tDqHTpM7xJN98F0o5h4r0fBI6hkxftEppRSkUExj4aXsRbG7E9i mp22tTjHKhnRbsr4s12sEtaI2wfHS6A= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx4+JMNOmiKsa4g1dibvv8i4EKmfLYM/fhyMjlRRX7+IbcdeDYhGgrKBviJ5McP+7Y+yi9BFXaw== X-Received: by 10.223.210.82 with SMTP id o18mr36694wri.85.1523522974817; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 01:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from rpluim ([149.5.228.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c141sm4022696wmh.21.2018.04.12.01.49.33 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 12 Apr 2018 01:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 11 Apr 2018 14:58:23 -0700 (PDT)") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c0c::230 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:116482 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: >> I think it's just a bug: when left-word and right-word were introduced >> only one pair of bindings was updated and not the other. > > I'm not sure it's a bug. My guess is that it was by design > (for whatever reason). Perhaps Eli or someone else can > enlighten us. > > I kinda doubt it was an oversight. All of those bindings > are together, and the person who changed the Meta bindings > likely searched for `forward-word', not "[M-right]" or > "(kbd "M-")"... > > In `bindings.el': > > (global-set-key [M-right] 'right-word) > (define-key esc-map [right] 'forward-word) > (global-set-key [M-left] 'left-word) > (define-key esc-map [left] 'backward-word) They both used to be bound to {forward,backward}-word, and were updated at the same time. They're only different in R2L text. Robert