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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:237804 Archived-At: >>> I.e, using single spacing, then M-q won't change that, because Emacs >>> doesn't recognize that as being two separate sentences. >> >> This feature is sorely missed: every time I copy text from web browsers >> to Emacs I have to manually insert additional space at the end of every >> copied sentence before typing M-q. > > What would you want it to do? > Does setting sentence-end-double-space to nil solve it? > If not, what's the difference? I tried to set sentence-end-double-space to nil, but reverted back to t because paragraphs with sentences separated by double space are easier to read when editing text using a monospaced font in Emacs (there is no such problem with proportional fonts in web browsers). > Would you want to recognize single-space end of sentence but change > them to a double space? Yes, maybe a separate command is needed, e.g. M-x sentence-use-double-space that would recognize single-space that doesn't separate an abbreviation and insert additional space.