From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#39618: 28.0.50; gnus nnimap reports more group articles than actually exist Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 10:56:10 -0800 Message-ID: <87r1yp6qb9.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <877e0nlkk6.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <875zg6kuue.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877e0jwtx8.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87eeur4lxk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <871rqqwdcs.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87v9o15sbs.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="112427"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 39618@debbugs.gnu.org, Deus Max To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 20 19:57:13 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1j4r0a-000T6F-4a for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 19:57:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48008 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j4r0Z-0003oa-3p for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 13:57:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53595) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j4r0R-0003mP-9U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 13:57:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j4r0Q-0001C9-Bc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 13:57:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:39894) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j4r0Q-0001Bv-7u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 13:57:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4r0Q-0001gW-83 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 13:57:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 18:57:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 39618 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 39618-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B39618.15822249816418 (code B ref 39618); Thu, 20 Feb 2020 18:57:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 39618) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Feb 2020 18:56:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45867 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4qzk-0001fQ-O6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 13:56:21 -0500 Original-Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:50688 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4qzi-0001fD-Sq for 39618@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 13:56:19 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 07060FA025; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 18:56:11 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87v9o15sbs.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 20 Feb 2020 13:57:59 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:176306 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Deus Max writes: > >> Simplifying nnimap not to keep track of local marks, may not only reduce >> complexity but also take care of this problem. >> If it's not needed, it's a waste. What do you think ? > > It's needed -- the data transferred from the IMAP server to the client > is impractically large if one were to do a complete resync each time. > The client keeps tracks of read/marked/etc messages, too, and just sends > a QRESYNC command to the server, which means "tell me everything that's > changed since last time". This is vastly more efficient. Yaar, that was a pretty out-there suggestion. And, as you've pointed out, actually a bad idea.