From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Marcin Borkowski Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs as a translator's tool Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 22:56:52 +0200 Message-ID: <87r1umwsff.fsf@mbork.pl> References: <871rn35lqc.fsf@mbork.pl> <87zh9r45ad.fsf@mbork.pl> <87h7vz2m5g.fsf@ebih.ebihd> <87d06k4rmg.fsf@mbork.pl> <87eeqzmanl.fsf@ebih.ebihd> <877dwmoboq.fsf@mbork.pl> <87bllypckg.fsf@ebih.ebihd> <87tuzpmnuo.fsf@mbork.pl> <87bllu4lx0.fsf@ebih.ebihd> <87blluxfcq.fsf@mbork.pl> <1rmqrrvn.fsf@ebih.ebihd> <87sgf5xry2.fsf@mbork.pl> <87ftb5qodp.fsf@ebih.ebihd> <87ftb4xcf4.fsf@mbork.pl> <87h7vkklij.fsf@ebih.ebihd> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="128794"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: mu4e 1.1.0; emacs 27.0.50 Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Emanuel Berg Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 10 22:57:37 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jj7mz-000XI2-Kp for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 22:57:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53768 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jj7my-0005IX-Lc for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 16:57:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53078) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jj7mV-0005GW-Iu for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 16:57:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([195.110.48.8]:58236) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jj7mR-0002wN-TB for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 16:57:07 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96106E6D94; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 22:56:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.mojserwer.eu Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.mojserwer.eu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jB8a1tH9m7Zy; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 22:56:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (jeden09-dwa27.echostar.pl [213.156.109.227]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DFB8FE62CE; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 22:56:52 +0200 (CEST) In-reply-to: <87h7vkklij.fsf@ebih.ebihd> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=195.110.48.8; envelope-from=mbork@mbork.pl; helo=mail.mojserwer.eu X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/06/10 16:56:57 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:123316 Archived-At: On 2020-06-09, at 22:54, Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor wrote: > Marcin Borkowski wrote: > >> 1. It is inefficient, in the sense that every >> overlay belongs to some buffer. No need to keep the >> variable `source-buffer'. > > I don't understand? Check out the function `overlay-buffer'. >> 2. Your code seems to assume that the point in the >> source buffer lies within the highlighted sentence, >> no? This need not be true, since >> >> 3. the source buffer may be (in my use-case) the >> same as the destination buffer, i.e., I sometimes >> keep both the English and Polish (let's say) >> versions in the same file. My code covers that case >> as well as two separate buffers. > > Right, but I think its a good idea to keep them > apart. And then have different modes... It depends. How about preapring a LaTeX file with two language versions typeset side-by-side? (There are other use-cases where having both language versions in the same file makes sense.) > Still, one can do that as well... with a variable > instead of point to keep track of it the overlay. > Maybe editing screws it up. Its just better to have > different buffers for different purposes, then people > can also rearrange stuff visually more easily, and > many other advantages... But my solution, in which I only use the overlay itself (no point, no markers, no variables pointing to buffers) seems to cover all such cases, and in quite an elegant way. Best, -- Marcin Borkowski http://mbork.pl