From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#27170: 26.0.50; Suggestion: Optionally send package build output to log file not *Messages* Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 13:09:36 +0200 Message-ID: <87r1s08dcf.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87fuflm0ky.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <87k0xtqozx.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6585"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: "N. 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I'm thinking it could occasionaly be > useful. And shouldn't any package system with self-respect have a log > file? :-) Sure, writing the output to a file would be fine, but I don't think Emacs needs a logging framework for that. If we can redirect messages to a buffer, then package.el can do whatever it wants with the messages, including writing them to a file if so desired. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no