From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Can't send mail with smtpmail "any more". 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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:124738 Archived-At: Vladimir Nikishkin writes: > I worked around this issue by switching to port 465+ssl/tls > That in itself is a good thing :-) > It almost seems like port 587 got blackholed by something. It=CA=BCs not uncommon for ISPs to block outgoing port 25, I guess somebody decided to do the same for 587 > Debugging facilities did not illuminate the situation, the deadlock happe= ns > before anything is written there. It=CA=BCs not a deadlock, it=CA=BCs just that whoever is doing the blocking= just drops the packets rather than sending a reset, so Emacs is waiting for a response that will never come (and eventually TCP will time out). Robert