From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Augusto Stoffel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Repurpose one key and reserve it for third-party packages Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2021 13:42:48 +0100 Message-ID: <87r1lqrarb.fsf@gmail.com> References: <7ef75c33936136eb3a20@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14659"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 08 19:44:36 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l9BWW-0003jR-Rq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 19:44:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34020 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9BWV-0006iv-OO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 13:44:35 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34430) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l95ss-0004AD-BI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 07:43:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ej1-x633.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::633]:39200) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l95sW-00009N-Fs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 07:43:13 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ej1-x633.google.com with SMTP id p20so24398776ejb.6 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 04:42:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7HIWK8skfkRZQaOtPCU4ToaDJviIFyTR5JQ7cWaLFmQ=; b=lZ4WDa4Dpny/4ErmANo4GFPq0FOm+3HbfGyHvj+U9qfvdu2+6Fon90P1/7X1JERMMX AS2UzHf7ox5iCija4TRCxomBAsC8fJRBLFhIevhvzIi0tDTq7NnTYsSjaBHgu+QPpFlk jOs9nmflzKkKzJAgQLcvawxCimT5v/CumHyb1Y9gJA+Hs0T1dSql0yp7+H3RjG6Uxmqi DZmVLs1G3JyuwohXP+/oZDxk8GJdnWnlHXrh4VWXhTl19OWXsMdBdYg7dU1Q/zB4vCYc AAmaBnKAZ4i1FrO9kgG5rNy2FU+sr9rhC1aN8gYh5YdWh8Ttzn7ckowISMN+u09Lthib g6mg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7HIWK8skfkRZQaOtPCU4ToaDJviIFyTR5JQ7cWaLFmQ=; b=O0iQcD+SGJXWT6PfHWxcGfMPiUyzvOWu5bRUzmGYaRzEd54nUErRyhbSoWi+cqf7sm lJ7hyZVBCKpGcPGz1d7HtEJc5Xxeq0F5CEdjGnLCsj71792Z2bFOnmLc6XLbeSdar64X YgbcXGLt1X7+y8jceNBIRdSymvBwXPSjESVokQ5oIJSAONOWzuoKMkDtl+M5qGaMItyn 6rKmUcl5hkTatx5hF1njVwkmaSJl/tS6aHWozJ71VcdiIA6R9eSYqDz01vwfJYAPUIYv 0NoUD0uPmjVWXUT9AO/as8HVkDg2TT8CdzbrJk4tglBLHXgNlnH6eO7LgG/9nniKuILd 6m+w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532vxFgkrBJvU7DyTYvvCXkmXPT1tLV02LUSPojSAnfL2G+if+7m 5DE+VvR7Hkp7CfTXV8ddXjvmFAxrve4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxafVytvRroL5RQY7DcTfsorvb+gKeYaQ/EL43nMnLvgsvUSHxEk8ZzHZ3TEmbtsU49PpOGAA== X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:35ca:: with SMTP id ap10mr16834313ejc.451.1612788169866; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 04:42:49 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from ars3 ([2a02:908:2211:8540::16e5]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r1sm9277377eds.70.2021.02.08.04.42.48 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 08 Feb 2021 04:42:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <7ef75c33936136eb3a20@heytings.org> (Gregory Heytings's message of "Sun, 07 Feb 2021 22:05:50 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::633; envelope-from=arstoffel@gmail.com; helo=mail-ej1-x633.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 08 Feb 2021 09:56:00 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264168 Archived-At: Surely lots of people rebind some non-prefix keys of dubious usefulness like =E2=80=98C-z=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98M-o=E2=80=99 (I bet I'm not alone i= n using those for =E2=80=98switch-to-buffer=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98other-window=E2=80=99 respe= ctively). Now, as long as there is a _keymap_ for third-party packages, which users can move wherever they see fit, I wouldn't care about the default bindings. But it's important not to leave room for the interpretation that the third-party keymap will always be bound to its default key. Best, Augusto