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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:272350 Archived-At: Ah, the craven pleasure of having one's flamebait reach its target via the intertubes. Like the straight author, I also prefer a Halstedian approach to garbage code, but elpa-admin is not that, and maintaining a Heroku mirror to normalize relations with ELPA is as cost-effective as erecting a Trumpian border wall. I suppose, relative to that undertaking, having to replicate elpa-admin's pre-build treatment and default-inclusive recipe were but afterthoughts. [1] Ever unconvincingly trying to appear aloof, I'll add the requisite disclaimer that none of these decisions actually matters except to a hundred or so obsessives. Most emacsers' configurations are so flawed that nothing we do prevents them from having to issue shell commands to manage third-party elisp. [1] https://github.com/raxod502/straight.el/blob/08b0ecf525b4b53e0952c1575644f82f52264961/straight.el#L3059-L3122