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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284386 Archived-At: >>>>> On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:38:49 +0100, Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez said: >> My preference is for #3: we just bite the bullet and nudge >> users helpfully toward using a separate file. Pedro> +1 >> It would work to make every one of these forms set a flag when they = are Pedro> loaded. Pedro> Doesn't that go a bit too far? Other proposals don't depend on m= odifying Pedro> custom-* If you want to detect whether the user has custom-set-variables or custom-set-faces in their init file, you=CA=BCre going to have to modify their code. The issue is whether we=CA=BCd need to do it for *all* of these function. Personally I think that would be excessive. Robert --=20