From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: forward 1 (was: Re: indent-buffer) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 02:44:27 +0100 Message-ID: <87r184ewec.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <8735klexia.fsf@zoho.eu> <87v8xgewsr.fsf@zoho.eu> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3771"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:MzCBaOcf0ORm2jWWONjAYoioneg= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 15 02:46:47 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nJmvX-0000jk-2V for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 02:46:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53524 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nJmvV-00069q-IF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:46:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:51964) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nJmtV-00068F-EG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:44:41 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:40724) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nJmtR-0005dw-3s for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:44:40 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nJmtO-0008Ql-5V for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 02:44:34 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:135953 Archived-At: > It seems that `forward-line', `forward-char', `forward-word' > and `backward-char' now takes 1 as the default, and it also > seems to be the case that using `backward-char' does no > longer make the byte-compiler say that the correct way is to > use (forward-char -1) - which is good, since `backward-char' > is more idiomatic [...] So there is a `forward-char' and a `backward-char'; a `forward-word' and a `backward-word'; a `forward-sentence' and a `backward-sentence'; but while there is a `forward-line', there isn't a "backward-line", so there one will still have to use (forward-line) ; advance one line (forward-line -1) ; go back one line with (forward-line 0) ; those who know know -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal