From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Running emacs without any customisation Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2022 23:23:35 +0200 Message-ID: <87r0zekqaw.fsf@web.de> References: <87mta2mj1h.fsf@web.de> <87bkqimb0h.fsf@web.de> <875ygqm9i5.fsf@web.de> <7xtB5vvAMg7OMI1FJcXTZz2lwNztvKjAAxb-enb6tfL2-MaXI4pJRaorY3jKTiK-G5Sr3wqrOoNNI4vHijePjFNFrIfjYItShWb2z2urM1s=@proton.me> <87v8oqks1z.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14475"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: uzibalqa Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 11 23:55:03 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oiNDL-0003aA-5O for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2022 23:55:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34116 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oiNDK-0006tU-4w for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2022 17:55:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58224) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oiMj0-000071-GR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2022 17:23:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.11]:39411) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oiMiy-0006k7-NK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2022 17:23:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=s29768273; t=1665523416; bh=EoPaWGAXobdVFETUnEUTe2IvHq4kFj/OUyVmVVVk55o=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=V1BpTMHBjQ1wxs8+XMPU9bXoSrQtJsRSPE2CxXes/akENsyzIYFTRmB7/CR7afn5/ ZdAjTLW+KnKLCD6Q0r4SWDf6wROQR564NDRzuRHR9HQE0zoEQAI45CkpoABI7b8DGJ 2BQ0XyWRSm8+yTlhPmZBwWJ1ra6RksA5Ye44uoaIfvuZKSVVENSKe9a41qFaS3Mdxh hFBEP1eI1ii9WX6/WdfBqye34o9gPg7McRt0Nq/DO5jZWVjB2Z8sqEuecfGvU8gYEu lODaKzd7wACwN/unH5Ah1Pt37A90fpz1j2o3YkHJb+l3DRa/gu0uDT8GHSheZdITft 68uPpXT6dm0jQ== X-UI-Sender-Class: 814a7b36-bfc1-4dae-8640-3722d8ec6cd6 Original-Received: from drachen.dragon ([94.222.172.180]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb106 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MUl9H-1oZG2I3fv7-00QVyi; Tue, 11 Oct 2022 23:23:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: (uzibalqa@proton.me's message of "Tue, 11 Oct 2022 20:53:46 +0000") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:ACEZ4lI0ANv4qBMwyiUxwP8H1EOVQYzy/sOJZaYjkAXwrrGacZN ksslYK3asHjFYQ34aUGeTtzGeOA5THjUyCwZt+Et6GzXjUqWiLtDQY4TG8f2V3GAtWs0ZA9 SfUfi1sNOXg7JtvBcGywoaifaPoFcztkqZbS9wcbHvYxTKWGLQHh56i53Uf2yjtipFV9xim YQQhR4LORKpkKPwpUOefA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:1XnFJq5sGzk=:rhy6QRjYRvEEM46EAopdJ5 OUVPeyy8g38J/VTGgjaHsVsjqHjdR/TKuegvjE1Rls5sJM8yeqjDB9BieR2pGrrB3v61oH1IP i1ALkGHCzvGTGrPt3gwOl4o0ZxI3D9elUbTz3rpjCpufr3wDUN0RwqEfFfJhtstX49PO+vkzh NNHLgrXAoR3oezeV63VcoR3jMqWz2dMI+nSHtpx3Tn8QyOKwgAVo4oGJuQ0acOJRbFIx3C8w4 cYLsv9rXhoUK1Jrz5a/9upMal/c/z5ZejziCGR0+T/EspUXKd9BqJUF51fftBcEoRfQZgJqgO pywT/Fb75OQXucDOxzJsvaUh5OTN9BDhsnaMSkJOFF/P+B4j6FXJTP8NtLRwlR1o202XzlpT6 Vp0HytKd68AckOWoTABMFe5U6mBLQIQ2+SeH0uJT40sT48Y5j93RptUpC5Yos+qKMcxB2P00/ 3ZIW84wuIXuY7iC/VFzpA9kpSgE9qsHC9mBO7RMeIBSOSLelpfKtlbm1WNy5t5+CsomxiGsAB lID9SrTUNAPtmeyMfPhZ8WPNPUA9R8JQiq2frLqpONh3qsBYC8R6KIIu9Ln11NbrBOwHBzOlf RPOdSZ2GyRyLySiAbXYrPedJM5+eSNMd2ny7KdfIPq+Y1q4cAasoSp47B1Cbw6JsaLN5PzguZ NdeyyYp/KgYGJveXN008DGonWra61vYhW9gwlUHBHIfVCzH4bbWs+9W4rThnoPF3+z2trEAyx HgOZf8IKB7Nvfrca1s8yrbeQzSizM4g0RksMjQLmSGjHda9saqOIYFs2Dg6izvy7ndU5c3Ib Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.17.11; envelope-from=michael_heerdegen@web.de; helo=mout.web.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:139831 Archived-At: uzibalqa writes: > Yes I have used "emacs -q" which should disregard the .emacs init file > even when it exists. In my case, it does not even exist, and I get > black background nevertheless. That hints at the system's site file ... or something in the custom file (-> the file that (custom-file) returns). Maybe you can empty that file before investigating further. Michael.