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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
Cc: 58506@debbugs.gnu.org, Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>,
	Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Subject: bug#58506: Use ".dir-locals.eld" and ".dir-locals-2.eld" when they exist
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2022 11:43:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r0z8je88.fsf@gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87czas5cxz.fsf@posteo.net> (Philip Kaludercic's message of "Sun,  16 Oct 2022 09:34:48 +0000")

Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> writes:

>> Yes, that's much better than my initial suggestion.  But I like the
>> safe-lisp approach better.
>
> ... why not both?  I can imagine that safe-lisp will take a while before
> it becomes usable, just because something like `safe-eval-p' has to be
> quite exhaustive, and at the very least handle all special forms.  Elisp
> isn't a Scheme so that means that a number of methods have to be
> implemented...

We're not in a hurry here.  😀  If we're aiming for a `safe-eval-p'
solution, then adding another syntax that will then be deprecated again
seems counter-productive.

But Stefan's syntax does look attractive, and allows both manual editing
and automatic editing, which a safe-lisp approach doesn't.  And the
safe-list approach also makes backwards compatibility more iffy -- if we
introduce `cond' in safe-lisp in Emacs 33, we'd still want the file to
not bug out in Emacs 32.

So safe-lisp would just have to ignore forms that are unknown to it,
which is less attractive than just ignoring

  (:some-new-thing ...)

in Stefan's syntax.

Uhm uhm hm.





  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-16  9:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-13  9:05 bug#58486: [PATCH] Prevent .dir-locals.el from being byte-compiled Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-13 14:20 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-13 14:32   ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-13 14:51     ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-13 17:18   ` Juri Linkov
2022-10-13 19:11     ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-14  9:22     ` bug#58506: Use ".dir-locals.eld" and ".dir-locals-2.eld" when they exist Stefan Kangas
2022-10-14 10:38       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-14 12:36         ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-14 11:25       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-14 12:36         ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-14 13:04         ` Robert Pluim
2022-10-14 13:10           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-14 13:23             ` Robert Pluim
2022-10-14 13:29               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-14 13:41                 ` Robert Pluim
2022-10-14 15:13           ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-15  9:18             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-15  9:38               ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-15  9:42                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-15 10:00                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-15 11:35                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-15 13:56                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-15 15:12                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-15 16:22                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-16  8:39                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-15 10:05                 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-15 15:19               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-16  8:47                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-16  9:34                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-16  9:43                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2022-10-16 13:38                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-16 13:44                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-18 13:30                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-18  7:28                 ` Juri Linkov
2022-10-18 13:25                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-14 13:38         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-14 15:07       ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-14 16:32     ` bug#58486: [PATCH] Prevent .dir-locals.el from being byte-compiled Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-15 19:16       ` Juri Linkov
2022-10-16 13:17         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-13 18:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-14 18:14   ` Philip Kaludercic

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