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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:305714 Archived-At: Dmitry writes: > On Sat, Apr 29, 2023, at 9:45 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> > Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023 03:52:48 +0300 >> > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, joaotavora@gmail.com >> > From: Dmitry Gutov >> > >> > But that's the thing: upgrading to a recent version of Eglot is not only >> > for the more advanced user. Those can easily go the 'M-x list-packages >> > C-s eglot i x' route. >> > >> > It is those who do the minimum customization and/or are just introduced >> > to Emacs, can miss out with more likelihood the longer the steps to >> > upgrade Eglot are going to be. >> >> At the risk of sounding like a broken record: introducing a new >> command for upgrading Eglot has the same problem as the original one: >> users of Emacs 29 will need to use a different procedure for upgrading >> Eglot than they used before. > But users of Emacs 28- would be able to use it too. So at least the docs could list just one method. But they don't need it, because package-install does the right thing to begin with?