From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Resources for an old newbie ? Date: Sat, 27 May 2023 07:41:48 +0200 Message-ID: <87r0r2cov7.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <0e037ca2-517d-3b52-2187-a7bba7956fbd@starynkevitch.net> <87353ndhzg.fsf@web.de> <871qj7397n.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87sfbmy794.fsf@web.de> <87mt1t1act.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87lehbvkiy.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19855"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:8bzaqhWyRl39q9rnc6VPI598Yg4= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 27 13:23:32 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q2s1E-0004xm-Cj for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 27 May 2023 13:23:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q2s0z-0004hx-5u; Sat, 27 May 2023 07:23:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q2mgm-0005Pu-HQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 May 2023 01:42:06 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q2mgk-0007dX-Or for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 May 2023 01:42:04 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q2mgi-0008RZ-VI for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 May 2023 07:42:00 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 27 May 2023 07:23:15 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:143765 Archived-At: Michael Heerdegen wrote: >> Trust me, if you are a fan, it'll just give you so much >> more. The Debian distribution model is great but for the >> one, two or three programs you really care about (mine are >> Emacs and mpv if anyone is curious :P), for those >> I recommend 100% getting the latest version. > > I know this has been your way, and it has been mine, so > I know what you are talking about. I just don't think it is > the best way for everyone, probably not even for a majority. > I don't want people to be disappointed, not everybody has > enough time for this [...] On the contrary, it is very easy and fast. And people are very fluent with those kind of sysadmin Linux and BSD commands these days, it is done in an instant! I'm talking about installing the latest version, not writing endless Elisp if that's what you mean? -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal