From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Resources for an old newbie ? Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2023 00:12:00 +0200 Message-ID: <87r0qqg9n3.fsf@web.de> References: <0e037ca2-517d-3b52-2187-a7bba7956fbd@starynkevitch.net> <87353ndhzg.fsf@web.de> <871qj7397n.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87ilch19ub.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87cz2nvk51.fsf@web.de> <87v8gfybhv.fsf@robbyzambito.me> <87zg5p5hm0.fsf@web.de> <875y8a698v.fsf@web.de> <875y89z9m7.fsf@dataswamp.org> <83fs777q9m.fsf@gnu.org> <835y837k5h.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8g37bgx.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18555"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:u5G7Jj9XViGFADVngVjFA5Vg1jo= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 05 00:12:52 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q5vxz-0004hu-8M for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 05 Jun 2023 00:12:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q5vxN-00013M-J0; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 18:12:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q5vxL-000138-QC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 18:12:11 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q5vxK-00015g-69 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 18:12:11 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q5vxF-0003ky-Uq for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jun 2023 00:12:05 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:143863 Archived-At: David Masterson writes: > Agreed to both of you. Installing the dependencies via the standard > system package manager gives you the (illusionary?) feeling that the > dependencies are okay with everything else on the system. Dunno about the feelings - but the package managers job is to _ensure_ that dependencies are ok. There can be conflicts that have to be resolved (before anything is changed on disk). Then you should keep an eye on what you are doing or what the automatic resolver suggests - before confirming a suggestion that will remove the complete desktop environment you are just using at the moment. Nothing will just break because you install some additional packages. That's just - feelings. > Building yourself is time consuming (especially on a Chromebook! [CBs go > to sleep when you walk away!]) and increases diisk space usage. You can use the -j switch to build using multiple CPUs in parallel (when you have them). I am using "make -j4" and that builds Emacs completely in few minutes on a really old Laptop. A rebuild is often much faster anyway (when not everything has to be build from scratch). Michael.