From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: [External] : Re: Use of advice [was: Is it valid to call isearch-filter-predicate outside isearch?] Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2023 11:53:36 +0000 Message-ID: <87r0qncwu7.fsf@localhost> References: <87edmo17v7.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11658"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Michael Heerdegen , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 07 13:49:46 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q6rfe-0002qE-2E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 07 Jun 2023 13:49:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q6rer-0007dp-Hl; Wed, 07 Jun 2023 07:48:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q6req-0007dZ-Ah for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jun 2023 07:48:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q6reo-0005zO-IJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jun 2023 07:48:56 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E4C3240027 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2023 13:48:52 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1686138532; bh=RVqgradWs0wGbM1FB59JEp2vWZTQ/25EsDDtAC14bRY=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=czrjnZDXit0s63jeSbBERCgwZrM6CdDggNe+OqrQeTXGd5KLIQmmyWTxJ1jJa8l8J IUjibdLNTDSvjJ5fKIMeT3/wZl8kaTQxA2H73hlRj2c+/ygB+DhUUpyi0vjQFhZqMc 6UWPmcMeNrVj/KfABoNaCkZwuw2S/l0ScqsJXyXOEcGqC9cJK3P9ftE+RlgMVKxA4w vu2H/joAaYagM6n3HE+Z+DhPS2+BaGWSyNqgY71i57GSNBleMK+53ikkaBE1uPlhFv Gwk+alGoSKcSEtrt0VIdT5pRpQiS89nzDQyt15TZIVaAPHlT3hrOEvwUw3tP8YliJt yqsM8SA6F/2Og== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4Qblwz3BpGz6tx8; Wed, 7 Jun 2023 13:48:51 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306680 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: >> Anyway, I think we (at least I) still learn about the consequences of >> having this tool. The "see what is going on" part would maybe be >> facilitated if the *Help* pages would show a combined overview showing >> which types of advices are applied in which order and at which depth >> around an advised function (at least in not trivial cases). > > +1 to that. I expect more needs to be done > wrt the debugger as well, to make what's > going on clearer. I am not sure about the debugger. IMHO, the current situation is not too different from how macro expansion shows up in the debugger. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at