From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Shrinking the C core Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2023 10:23:06 +0000 Message-ID: <87r0o7fdh1.fsf@localhost> References: <20230809094655.793FC18A4654@snark.thyrsus.com> <87il9owg0f.fsf@yahoo.com> <87fs4pkkqi.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87v8dk3bis.fsf@localhost> <874jl4l0bq.fsf@dataswamp.org> <871qg7l2yb.fsf@localhost> <87pm3ri7vx.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32191"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Emanuel Berg Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 13 12:23:10 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qV8Fa-0008BE-DJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 12:23:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qV8FC-00041q-Qx; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 06:22:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qV8FB-000408-Ae for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 06:22:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qV8F9-0006GO-I3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 06:22:45 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5200240103 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 12:22:41 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1691922161; bh=GBhJ0o7AEaavZlkWcEtwlEse7XnZVFHlRN2RiNy8yjI=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=EGfIzFZhjfmf7o1xc3cUyKfgxnmr/OJXnzlCSMH9S9CA6K7GdwQor6zAAIbw7VAbY cGO8x2WIjJOYIP5KryWOSeXLy61ZF5lPwFxwLAVnh2BEoAeZNhVI6fxlpDVxqbM6EX 2jVFnBm+tYS9WtVWtquEO2v+eEsrAbjRo66s1Ehu6t3fgtYjiSYwHHzYrS+K+lOQFB xmsB3tHckpAo3rOP2XyYawO5r5mpM5JSCE+m1A3wHFFF43f2wV5DNsyxafn5XpEOou A14M5/MlVpbBdozgMXcoerDa9LBL8pJe4jq1ikK9VSDs/pwc4jW1Nmu1y4zB7NxHIG zqDrw6e8jUw1g== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4RNtrd1dF2z9rxK; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 12:22:40 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87pm3ri7vx.fsf@dataswamp.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:308668 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: > Do we have a set of benchmarks in Elisp that everyone agrees > are good, and that can output data easily to show the results? > Didn't you do that with an ASCII table in a previous post? > > Maybe I can use that source with minimal modifications to get > them to run in CL, so we can compare more broadly, but also in > an agreed-upon way. So it will not be about what really > matters or what people really use etc, it will only be about > performing as good as possible on those benchmarks, without > cheating obviously ;) See https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/elisp-benchmarks.html These are the benchmarks we used during the discussion of native-comp support. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at