From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs design and architecture. How about copy-on-write? Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2023 09:56:12 +0000 Message-ID: <87r0mt88xv.fsf@localhost> References: <83edizjn0v.fsf@gnu.org> <0518f65b-1dd1-6923-8497-da4d3aeac631@gutov.dev> <87sf7fc7kd.fsf@dataswamp.org> <834jjuk68t.fsf@gnu.org> <87cyyhc7uu.fsf@dataswamp.org> <83ttrsg9nx.fsf@gnu.org> <83h6nrg4eg.fsf@gnu.org> <83v8c7elan.fsf@gnu.org> <877conk5ny.fsf@localhost> <83ttrreeu0.fsf@gnu.org> <87bkdzeas1.fsf@localhost> <83cyyfe5l8.fsf@gnu.org> <8734zbyu6o.fsf@dataswamp.org> <835y46e8o9.fsf@gnu.org> <87zg1ixvnc.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87il86nxts.fsf@localhost> <87r0mux93s.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28151"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Emanuel Berg Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 20 11:55:26 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qitva-00076w-0X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 20 Sep 2023 11:55:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qitvD-0003tB-Bn; Wed, 20 Sep 2023 05:55:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qitvB-0003t3-V6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Sep 2023 05:55:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qitv9-0001eM-Nk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Sep 2023 05:55:01 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0FEC240027 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2023 11:54:57 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1695203698; bh=10HQd7HKJYHwiGcqXfPyljk+7RhZeHy2EpJEJGX7GCM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=Zb7f4HfkgRcxpkRV186lnXnp2UjAz4qdGeFIzOAt7Yj3QJWEmj2qhdP0ZS0UeTsCO smZoq1BZzGw6n2AYmt3W57o4B0XwpXteYJ2Gg344qJ8l+uM7ZzAnV3NerpeHybU6gK G60rmJlHSx38OV1mEjZJdDDMS1mRP9M6rnc8NnQ4nxTfgBiILdlZ+t1YJ49McpgLSo xJn9esZ2cdWC71/j/G0V8gCkyvSwZSIFp+Oek05Gj2ys2e+FZkrSCmm2XefcsYXsRk 3sU9Lln+KYdmG1twtCCOOcKguRU3ene5l7gIdfkSwYbwgFm+OCfAuGhq3+zzoVfWJc D6/yoWJYxqf/g== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4RrDR525L6z9rxM; Wed, 20 Sep 2023 11:54:57 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87r0mux93s.fsf@dataswamp.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:310810 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: >> https://yhetil.org/emacs-devel/871qhnr4ty.fsf@localhost/ > > Yeah, but instead of adopting the lock mechanism to take into > account a possibly huge amount of such cases the lock > mechanism should be solid and work the same way for everyone > and everything. > ... Sorry, but I am completely lost. Cannot understand what you are trying to propose. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at