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From: Xiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 67669@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if'
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2023 01:08:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r0jytm58.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83sf4e34s8.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 07 Dec 2023 08:28:23 +0200")

Hi Eli,

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Xiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com>
>> Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2023 13:47:02 -0800
>> 
>> 
>> In section "the `kill-new' function" - the third last paragraph to be
>> precise - there are some texts in parentheses that discusses potentially
>> using an `and' to replace the `if' statement being discussed.  It looks
>> like to be referring to an earlier version of the code example[1] before
>> using the version from Emacs 22.  Meanwhile, it looks like relying on
>> the side effect of `and' to emulate an `if' may not be a good idea
>> nowadays.  So is it OK to drop this advice?
>
> AFAIU, the relevant fragment is:
>
>      The expression looks like this:
>
> 	 (if interprogram-cut-function
> 	     (funcall interprogram-cut-function string (not replace))))
>
>      If an ‘interprogram-cut-function’ exists, then Emacs executes
>   ‘funcall’, which in turn calls its first argument as a function and
>   passes the remaining arguments to it.  (Incidentally, as far as I can
>   see, this ‘if’ expression could be replaced by an ‘and’ expression
>   similar to the one in the first part of the function.)
>
> I don't see anything wrong here.  Can you elaborate on why you think
> the text in parentheses is inaccurate or incorrect or unclear?

Sorry I wasn't very clear.  I was referring to the part "... could be
replaced by an ‘and’ expression similar to _the one in the first part of
the function_."  But when I tried to search for `and' in the example
code of that section I found no `and' usage at all, which confused me a
bit.  It was not until I looked at the texi source that I noticed that
the original example code did use `and' which I linked in my first
email, and it was later replace by the current one from Emacs 22 which
no longer used `and'.  Thus I would consider the text in the parentheses
you quoted to be obsolete.

And of course as I mentioned in the previous email, IMHO it is probably
not a good advice to use `and' to emulate `if'.

>
> Thanks.

-- 
Xiyue Deng





  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-07  9:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-06 21:47 bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if' Xiyue Deng
     [not found] ` <handler.67669.B.170189926211616.ack@debbugs.gnu.org>
2023-12-06 22:08   ` Xiyue Deng
2023-12-07  6:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-07  9:08   ` Xiyue Deng [this message]
2023-12-07 10:16     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-07 17:49       ` Xiyue Deng
2023-12-07 17:56         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-07 19:54           ` Xiyue Deng
2023-12-07 20:22             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-07 20:37               ` Xiyue Deng
2023-12-07 21:29                 ` Drew Adams
2023-12-08  9:11                   ` Xiyue Deng
2023-12-08  6:25                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-08  9:07                   ` Xiyue Deng
2023-12-08 15:37                   ` Drew Adams
2023-12-07 19:37         ` Drew Adams
2023-12-07 20:00           ` Xiyue Deng
2023-12-08 10:45         ` Sean Whitton
2023-12-08 22:41           ` Xiyue Deng

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