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[2603:8000:a400:cdc:5b7:1692:5cbe:65ea]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id sc16-20020a17090b511000b002887e7ca212sm1319712pjb.18.2023.12.08.01.11.50 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 08 Dec 2023 01:11:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:29:04 +0000") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:275744 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: >> Well if we use `if' with else then yes. > > Even if we use it with THEN. > > `if' and `cond' are completely general and > don't, by themselves abstractly, suggest > any particular connotation for a human > reader. They can return any value you like. > Whether the value returned is used anywhere > is neither determined nor suggested by any > convention. Ack. As I replied to Eli, TIL that `and' and `if' are actually used interchangeably in Elisp. Thanks! -- Xiyue Deng