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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: mardani29@yahoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Q: Is there a built-in way to read multiple file names?
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2024 14:15:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r0bxpecj.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86jzhpjt4x.fsf@gnu.org>

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> May you please explain in more details how you envision such multi-file
>> selection interface?
>
> Basically, present a Dired-like list of files and let the users mark
> the files they want to select.  Many GUI programs show file-selection
> dialogs, which allow selection of more than one file, and that is what
> I had in mind.

Will something like

------------- dired-completion-mode -----------------
[candidates]
-rw-r--r--  1 yantar92 yantar92   936 Jun 25 10:22 CONTRIBUTE.org
-rw-r--r--  1 yantar92 yantar92 35151 Jun 25 10:22 COPYING
------------------- minibuffer ------------------------
Choose files: CO

work?

Basically, instead of the completion buffer, there is dired-derived
buffer narrowed according to the minibuffer input.

Then, users can mark files by switching to "dired-completion-mode" and
using the usual dired mark commands, including bulk marks.

------------- dired-completion-mode -----------------
[selected files]
-rw-r--r--  1 yantar92 yantar92 35151 Jun 25 10:22 COPYING <MARKED>
[candidates]
-rw-r--r--  1 yantar92 yantar92   936 Jun 25 10:22 CONTRIBUTE.org
------------------- minibuffer ------------------------
Choose files: CO

Later, users can go back to minibuffer and change the input, narrowing
to a potentially different set of files:

------------- dired-completion-mode -----------------
[selected files]
-rw-r--r--  1 yantar92 yantar92 35151 Jun 25 10:22 COPYING <MARKED>
[candidates]
drwxr-xr-x  8 yantar92 yantar92  4096 Jul 13 16:04 .git
-rw-r--r--  1 yantar92 yantar92  1044 Jun 25 10:22 .gitignore
-rw-r--r--  1 yantar92 yantar92    95 Jun 25 10:22 .gitmodules
------------------- minibuffer ------------------------
Choose files: git

They can then mark the new files as needed

------------- dired-completion-mode -----------------
[selected files]
-rw-r--r--  1 yantar92 yantar92 35151 Jun 25 10:22 COPYING <MARKED>
drwxr-xr-x  8 yantar92 yantar92  4096 Jul 13 16:04 .git <MARKED>
-rw-r--r--  1 yantar92 yantar92    95 Jun 25 10:22 .gitmodules <MARKED>
[candidates]
-rw-r--r--  1 yantar92 yantar92  1044 Jun 25 10:22 .gitignore
------------------- minibuffer ------------------------
Choose files: git

... or unmark, by using the unmark commands in the same buffer on
"selected files".

>> > The display parts might be suitable for selection, but the entire
>> > completion machinery behind this makes absolutely no sense for the
>> > purpose of selection based on attributes that are not names or
>> > collection of strings.
>> 
>> Is it? AFAIK, packages like consult allow searching by metadata. Isn't
>> custom COLLECTION function not suitable?
>
> Of course, one can make the COLLECTION function do whatever one wants,
> including coffee, love, and whatnot.  But how in the world could the
> result be called "completion" if it doesn't complete anything??

This sounds a bit strange, but I think that this line of the discussion
is deviating from my central question of multi-file selection.
How exactly the minibuffer input is matched against the files (be it
just a file name/path or also attributes/contents/major mode/what not)
is not my concern. Let's focus on selecting multiple files via
completion.

-- 
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>



  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-13 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-07  7:22 Q: Is there a built-in way to read multiple file names? Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-07 13:26 ` Daniel Martín
2024-07-07 15:56   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-07 16:03     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-07 17:18       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-07 17:38         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-07 17:47           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-07 17:56             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-07 21:24               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-07-13 13:57                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-13 18:56                   ` Drew Adams
2024-07-14 12:38                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-14 17:23                       ` Drew Adams
2024-07-15 18:56                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-15 19:44                           ` Drew Adams
2024-07-17 17:21                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-17 19:49                               ` Drew Adams
2024-07-13 13:43               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-13 13:53                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-13 14:15                   ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2024-07-13 14:28                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-13 16:56                       ` dog-wagging systems chad
2024-07-14 12:16                       ` Q: Is there a built-in way to read multiple file names? Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-14 13:11                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-15 18:52                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-15 19:22                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-15 19:52                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-16 10:05                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-23 11:13                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-23 12:05                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-23 16:30                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-23 16:35                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-23 16:40                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-23 17:48                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-23 16:02                                     ` Yuri Khan
2024-07-23 17:35                                     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-07-16  5:09                             ` Yuri Khan
2024-07-13 14:19                 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2024-07-13 14:19                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-08 12:00       ` Max Nikulin
2024-07-13 14:00         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-14  9:00           ` Max Nikulin
2024-07-14 12:33             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-15 12:12               ` Max Nikulin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-07-13 16:28 Rahguzar
2024-07-14 12:30 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-14 20:29   ` Rahguzar

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