From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Let's tell we are using GTK+ Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 13:42:08 +0900 Organization: The XEmacs Project Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87ptjkyau7.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87adaqdxqt.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1060058604 1317 80.91.224.253 (5 Aug 2003 04:43:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 04:43:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: terjeros@phys.ntnu.no, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 05 06:43:42 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19jtfi-00056F-00 for ; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 06:43:42 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19jtk1-0001z8-00 for ; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 06:48:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19jtfR-0006PI-7G for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 00:43:25 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19jtfL-0006Ki-Ua for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 00:43:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19jteo-0005Xs-Sx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 00:43:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [130.158.98.109] (helo=tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19jteJ-00058a-3y; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 00:42:15 -0400 Original-Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 19jteC-0003m3-00; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 13:42:08 +0900 Original-To: Miles Bader In-Reply-To: (Paul Jarc's message of "Mon, 04 Aug 2003 13:31:35 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1001 (Gnus v5.10.1) XEmacs/21.4 (Portable Code, linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:15811 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:15811 >>>>> "Paul" == Paul Jarc writes: Paul> It would be nice if the same name were used everywhere. So Paul> in the absence of any concrete problem, I'd prefer "gtk+", Paul> since that's the name given to that package by its Paul> maintainers. What makes + any more superfluous or annoying Paul> than g, t, or k? Nothing. But common practice seems to be to drop the "+". For example, Debian shows 251 packages containing the string "gtk", of which only 2 contain "gtk+". None of the library names contain the "+". Fink (Mac OS X) names the GTK+ library and doc packages themselves as "gtk+", but all the packages that call GTK+ use the shorter "gtk" (or even shorter leading "g"). So if Debian and Fink are at all representative, having the same name everywhere favors "gtk" over "gtk+". -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.