From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Fogel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-h C-i Date: 18 Jun 2004 07:33:03 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87pt7xf3ls.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> References: <877jxty4gg.fsf@emacswiki.org> <87vflafi4g.fsf@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> <873c6sogur.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87wu26xjey.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87pt7y32au.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> <87smcts5e4.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87brjh1dq7.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> <87k6y4gbku.fsf@mail.jurta.org> Reply-To: kfogel@red-bean.com NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1087584628 5667 80.91.224.253 (18 Jun 2004 18:50:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 18:50:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 18 20:50:18 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BbORO-0002rM-00 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2004 20:50:18 +0200 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BbORO-00052W-00 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2004 20:50:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BbOSV-0004MR-00 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 18 Jun 2004 14:51:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BbOSR-0004Kf-88 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jun 2004 14:51:23 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BbOSP-0004K8-EY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jun 2004 14:51:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BbOSP-0004K5-CF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jun 2004 14:51:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [207.115.63.78] (helo=pimout6-ext.prodigy.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BbOR3-0001gN-LF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jun 2004 14:49:57 -0400 Original-Received: from floss.red-bean.com (adsl-65-42-91-60.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net [65.42.91.60]) by pimout6-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.10 milter /8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5IInuRB220122; Fri, 18 Jun 2004 14:49:56 -0400 Original-Received: from kfogel by floss.red-bean.com with local (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 1BbIYJ-0004P7-00; Fri, 18 Jun 2004 07:33:03 -0500 Original-To: Juri Linkov Emacs: anything free is worth what you paid for it. In-Reply-To: <87k6y4gbku.fsf@mail.jurta.org> Original-Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:25087 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:25087 Juri Linkov writes: > There are some duplicated keybindings in help.el already: > both `C-h n' and `C-h C-n' are bound to `view-emacs-news'. > But `C-h i' is used more often than `C-h n' or `C-h C-n'. > Why we have duplicated keybindings for `view-emacs-news', > but can't add a new for `info'? This isn't about whether or not we have a precedent for duplication. It's about using up keyspace. Just because we have used up some keybindings, does not mean it's good to use up more. You asked if there were any objections -- I objected :-). If someone had asked me whether `C-h C-n' was a good idea, given that we already had `C-h n', I would have objected to that too, for the same reasons. (Or perhaps they happened in the other order, but that doesn't change the point.) -Karl