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From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Bug Database?
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 10:31:59 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pscm314g.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <uejt3r0o9.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri\, 20 Oct 2006 07\:55\:34 +0200")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> Usually, it's the other way around: the bugs are reported to the
> bug-tracker, which then emails them to the list.
>
> We could modify report-emacs-bug to use a Web browser (via url, for
> example) to do that.

While it's nice to have the _ability_ to submit bugs via the web (casual
users might find it easier to deal with such an interface), I think
email reporting is mandatory.  It's also nice to have something like
debian's "reportbug" program, which uses a simple UI on the user's
machine to prompt for details, but sends email to actually report the
bug.  Basically, choice is good.

Several reasons for this:

(1) Email is available in situations where web access is not (the
    reverse is true too of course: again, choice is good).

(2) Typical web bug-tracker interfaces are completely awful (bugzilla,
    I'm looking at you...) and the lack of integretation with one's
    familiar environment annoying.  Clumsy web interfaces are especially
    frustrating when reporting many bugs, because one must painfully
    labor through the same bad interface repeatedly -- when email is
    supported, one can streamline the process greatly (elisp is great
    for this).

(3) Many bugs involve "conversations", with back-and-forth between
    developers (often more than one) and bug reports.  Web-only
    interfaces like bugzilla make this very awkward -- while it wil
    _send_ email to indicate a new response in "the conversation" about
    a bug, one must then go to the web page and fill in a form to reply!
    The natural thing, simply replying (to the email'd report) via one's
    mail client, isn't supported!

-Miles

-- 
"Suppose we've chosen the wrong god. Every time we go to church we're
just making him madder and madder." -- Homer Simpson

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-10-21  1:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-17 21:49 Bug Database? Nick Roberts
2006-10-17 23:17 ` David Reitter
2006-10-18  4:24 ` Chong Yidong
2006-10-18  4:39   ` Nick Roberts
2006-10-18  6:22     ` Jan Djärv
2006-10-18 17:54       ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-18 10:41     ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-18 13:35       ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-10-19  6:41         ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-19  7:17           ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-10-19  8:50           ` Jason Rumney
2006-10-20  6:06             ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-20 10:06               ` Jason Rumney
2006-10-21  2:02                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-20  5:55           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-20 10:26             ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-20 17:35               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-21 12:04                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-21  1:31             ` Miles Bader [this message]
2006-10-21  9:40               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-21 12:48                 ` Miles Bader
2006-10-22 16:36                   ` David Kastrup
2006-10-21  9:42               ` Andreas Schwab
2006-10-21 12:50                 ` Miles Bader
2006-10-21 17:37                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-21 18:07                   ` Andreas Schwab
2006-10-23  5:11                     ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-23  8:52                       ` Andreas Schwab
2006-10-23 18:38                         ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-23 12:02                       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2006-10-24 17:41                         ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-21 12:05               ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-18 14:37       ` Nick Roberts
2006-10-18 15:20         ` joakim
2006-10-18 16:41           ` Emacs-based web browser (was Re: Bug Database?) Magnus Henoch
2006-10-18 17:26             ` Emacs-based web browser Stefan Monnier
2006-10-18 17:36               ` Lennart Borgman
2006-10-18 18:02                 ` Magnus Henoch
2006-10-19  6:41         ` Bug Database? Richard Stallman
2006-10-19  8:30           ` Nick Roberts
2006-10-20  6:06             ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-20  7:53               ` Nick Roberts
2006-10-20  7:45             ` Yavor Doganov
2006-10-23 10:45               ` Sascha Wilde
2006-10-20 22:10       ` Michael Olson
2006-10-18 10:42 ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-18 14:47   ` Nick Roberts
2006-10-19  6:41     ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-19  7:04     ` Frank Schmitt
2006-10-19  9:26       ` David Kastrup
2006-10-19 10:07       ` Nick Roberts
2006-10-19 11:46         ` Frank Schmitt
2006-10-19 12:55           ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-10-19 19:55           ` Nick Roberts
2006-10-20  8:20             ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-20  9:00               ` Nick Roberts
2006-10-20 12:01                 ` Frank Schmitt
2006-10-20 20:33                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-21  1:08                   ` Miles Bader
2006-10-20  6:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-20 21:00             ` David Kastrup
2006-10-21  1:21               ` Miles Bader
2006-10-20  2:19       ` Miles Bader
2006-10-21  0:31         ` Giorgos Keramidas
2006-10-20  6:01       ` Eli Zaretskii

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