From: Werner Koch <wk@gnupg.org>
To: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
Cc: Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de>, Daiki Ueno <ueno@unixuser.org>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Fix needed for communication with gpg-agent
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 09:53:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ps81tfuy.fsf@wheatstone.g10code.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87slcynii0.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Thu\, 22 Feb 2007 13\:40\:23 -0500")
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:40, cyd@stupidchicken.com said:
> In that case, I think Emacs should disable use of gpg-agent when
> running in a console, except when gpg-agent already has a passphrase
> cached. Then all we need is some method for Emacs to determine if the
That is only a short term solution. The goal of gpg-agent is to take
care of _all_ secret key[1] management. gpg and gpgsm will delegate
all secret key operations to gpg-agent and nevermwork with a secret
key directly. This is already the case for gpgsm, the S/MIME variant
of gpg. As time permits this will be implemented in gpg too. Using
gpg-agent as a passphrase cache for gpg is only a temporrary solution.
> > Is it possible to enhance server-start/emacsclient so that it does not
> > edit a file but asks for string and returns that one? Pinentry could
> > then use this feature for user interaction.
>
> I'm not sure how this suggestion could work.
Recall that pinentry is called on the sole discretion of gpg-agent.
Only gpg-agent knows whether Pinentry needs to be called.
My suggestion is this:
+-------+ +-----------+ +-----------+ +----------+
| emacs | -> | gpg/gpgsm | -> | gpg-agent | ----> | pinentry |
+-------+ +-----------+ +-----------+ (may) +----------+
^ |
| |
+--------------------------------------------------+
(some mechanism to loop back to emacs)
Pinentry uses this:
if DISPLAY set
Use GUI mode; no problem
else if SOME_EMACS_ENVVAR set
Loop back to emacs
else
Use Curses
to decide wether that emacs loop back method is to be used. It will
then ask emacs: Please create a form or a minibuffer with this or that
description and return the user input to me.
I don't know the emacsclient protocol and whether it can easiliy be
enhanced for that case. To me this sounds like a viable solution
which does not require emacs to stop other processing if no pinentry
is required.
Shalom-Salam,
Werner
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-02-23 8:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-02-17 20:57 Fix needed for communication with gpg-agent Richard Stallman
2007-02-18 17:42 ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-19 23:35 ` Miles Bader
2007-02-20 1:59 ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-22 17:31 ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-22 17:44 ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-22 18:04 ` Werner Koch
2007-02-22 18:40 ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-22 22:00 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-02-22 22:47 ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-23 20:01 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-02-24 8:28 ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-23 22:09 ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-23 23:41 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-02-25 4:06 ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-25 19:32 ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-25 19:50 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-02-25 20:22 ` David Kastrup
2007-02-26 3:27 ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-26 10:27 ` Werner Koch
2007-02-27 7:38 ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-27 8:53 ` Werner Koch
2007-02-28 2:37 ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-23 8:53 ` Werner Koch [this message]
2007-02-23 10:27 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-02-23 16:23 ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-23 16:47 ` Werner Koch
2007-02-23 19:37 ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-23 20:10 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-02-23 22:10 ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-23 22:09 ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-23 23:03 ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-23 17:13 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-02-23 18:30 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-02-23 18:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-02-24 14:08 ` Miles Bader
2007-02-23 19:35 ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-20 13:43 ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-20 15:35 ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-21 8:37 ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-21 12:04 ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-22 17:21 ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-20 15:11 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-02-20 15:45 ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-21 8:37 ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-21 13:11 ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-22 7:19 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <E1HJCsN-000541-DO@fencepost.gnu.org>
2007-02-21 22:41 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-02-21 23:15 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-02-22 0:14 ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-22 8:04 ` Werner Koch
2007-02-22 12:09 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-02-22 8:13 ` Werner Koch
2007-02-23 10:22 ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-23 13:20 ` Werner Koch
2007-02-23 16:40 ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-23 22:09 ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-23 19:36 ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-23 23:25 ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-23 23:58 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-02-24 0:19 ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-24 0:57 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-02-24 9:58 ` Sascha Wilde
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