From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dieter Wilhelm Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs manual mentioning thumbs mode but not tumme Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 13:46:32 +0200 Organization: The Church of Emacs Message-ID: <87ps67rxev.fsf@debby.local.net> References: <87slb8szz9.fsf@debby.local.net> <17947.65334.841905.101671@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <17949.22877.645175.478069@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <17950.43941.498605.877229@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <876481t7mu.fsf@debby.local.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1176551231 1889 80.91.229.12 (14 Apr 2007 11:47:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 11:47:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: nickrob@snap.net.nz, emacs-devel@gnu.org, mathias.dahl@gmail.com To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 14 13:47:04 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hcgid-0007Js-RD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 13:47:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hcgn1-0007Gt-2a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 07:51:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hcgmx-0007AL-83 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 07:51:31 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hcgmv-000756-Oc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 07:51:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hcgmv-00074i-Iq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 07:51:29 -0400 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.179]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HcgiU-0004f5-MY; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 07:46:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [84.167.10.53] (helo=debby.local.net) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwtQ-1HcgiN16oR-0004i1; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 13:46:47 +0200 Original-Received: from dieter by debby.local.net with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hcgi8-0001Kp-H1; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 13:46:32 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri\, 13 Apr 2007 11\:19\:55 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.95 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/Mf1ESKRFNNYmOedSNC/ZBKg1bSQ1vwpWvBLJ 8iqyUV6d+FtBd+715eh1MBRZ0QMRfyMmQcqiDbclTOrAgus36K tgUbeZJj4WI6Xhhh79ur/dc9qNuTmxY X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:69435 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > The point for retaining thumbs is that one can't please everybody with > one approach. From a user's perspective I think offering choice > outstrips every other disadvantage concerning maintainability, > consistency, etc. > > Many users find that "more choice" adds up to "complexity" and > "uncertainty". It is therefore usually much better to provide just > one feature for a certain job than to provide two. In the general case you are right but here its easier. What is wrong with the following idea? "We recommend tumme for you as an image viewing and - management system. But for the viewing part we did not spare any effort to provide--especially for You--an alternative." (Warning: Now its getting nearly metaphysical.) ----------------------------------------------- Besides user choice (1) there might be two additional points to consider. (2) Competition and innovation Someone might grab thumbs and make an even more complete tumme out of it. (3) Rewarding the work of package creators dieter@debby:/tmp$ head -6 thumbs.el ;;; thumbs.el --- Thumbnails previewer for images files ;; Copyright (C) 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 Free Software Foundation, Inc. ;; Author: Jean-Philippe Theberge ;; Maintainer: FSF -- Best wishes H. Dieter Wilhelm Darmstadt, Germany