From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: juri@jurta.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, storm@cua.dk, rms@gnu.org,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Shift-movement selection
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:32:00 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pru2i527.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvpru2sl03.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:38:35 -0400")
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> Anything that doesn't modify the buffer -- e.g. all movement commands.
>
> Supposedly these will be changed to use the new function, so they will
> explicitly deactivate the mark if the mark was activated with shift and
> the movement is then performed without the shift.
>
> So again, which ones would be left?
Are you serious? You intend to modify _every_ movement command in
Emacs, and require that users modify whatever commands they have
written? You intend to do this when a simple, clean, and more general
solution exists, with no apparent downsides?
Why?
Maybe for activating shift-selection, annotating commands is the best we
can do, but it's very clear that for deactivating it, we can do better.
-Miles
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2008-03-05 6:37 position on changing defaults? Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-05 7:02 ` Miles Bader
2008-03-05 13:33 ` Miles Bader
2008-03-05 14:54 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-05 15:44 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-05 19:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-05 19:38 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-05 21:55 ` Miles Bader
2008-03-05 15:34 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-05 9:55 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-07 3:37 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-05 15:02 ` Bastien
2008-03-05 19:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-05 22:30 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-05 23:15 ` Miles Bader
2008-03-06 3:49 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-06 4:10 ` Miles Bader
2008-03-06 4:30 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-07 3:35 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-07 3:38 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-05 23:28 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-06 3:58 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-06 10:07 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-06 11:37 ` René Kyllingstad
2008-03-06 16:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-06 19:11 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-06 21:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-09 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-06 16:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-06 17:52 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-06 18:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-07 0:35 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-07 3:38 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-09 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-09 1:46 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-09 16:40 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-06 16:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-06 16:37 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-06 17:09 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-06 17:35 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-06 20:38 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-03-06 20:40 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-06 21:33 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-03-06 21:36 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-09 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-06 18:10 ` Johan Bockgård
2008-03-06 19:44 ` Mathias Dahl
2008-03-07 0:43 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-09 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-07 3:38 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-07 3:48 ` Miles Bader
2008-03-07 4:07 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-08 17:40 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-08 18:08 ` Gregory Collins
2008-03-09 0:27 ` Miles Bader
2008-03-09 0:36 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-09 0:43 ` Miles Bader
2008-03-09 1:10 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-09 23:08 ` Mathias Dahl
2008-03-11 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-11 6:06 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-09 21:51 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-09 22:34 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-10 0:29 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-10 0:57 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-11 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-11 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-09 20:53 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-08 18:15 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-08 21:09 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-09 16:39 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-09 17:55 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-09 22:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-10 0:30 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-10 22:29 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-08 19:11 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-08 19:26 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-08 19:54 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-08 20:03 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-08 20:28 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-08 23:41 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-09 0:04 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-09 0:18 ` Stephen Eglen
2008-03-11 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-11 10:44 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-11 12:22 ` Tassilo Horn
2008-03-11 14:39 ` ido-mode (was Re: position on changing defaults?) Kim F. Storm
2008-03-11 16:14 ` ido-mode Tassilo Horn
2008-03-09 0:27 ` position on changing defaults? Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-09 0:36 ` Miles Bader
2008-03-09 9:51 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-09 16:40 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-11 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-09 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-07 12:21 ` paul r
2008-03-11 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-07 3:38 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-05 20:43 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-05 23:30 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-05 23:45 ` Bastien
2008-03-05 23:54 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-06 0:00 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-06 0:10 ` Bastien
2008-03-07 3:38 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-05 23:46 ` Miles Bader
2008-03-06 0:21 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-06 10:58 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-07 23:14 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-07 23:27 ` Miles Bader
2008-03-08 0:40 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-09 2:18 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-08 1:24 ` deactivation in "shift-select" mode Miles Bader
2008-03-08 2:22 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-08 3:11 ` Miles Bader
2008-03-08 3:27 ` Miles Bader
2008-03-08 17:26 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-09 20:53 ` position on changing defaults? Richard Stallman
2008-03-09 21:58 ` Miles Bader
2008-03-09 22:34 ` Shift-movement selection (was: position on changing defaults?) Stefan Monnier
2008-03-09 23:00 ` Shift-movement selection Miles Bader
2008-03-09 23:57 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-10 0:06 ` Miles Bader
2008-03-10 16:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-10 16:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-10 3:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-10 4:11 ` Miles Bader
2008-03-10 14:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-10 15:06 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-10 16:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-10 16:40 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-11 9:25 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-11 18:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-12 0:19 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-12 10:06 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-12 17:51 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-12 22:06 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-12 23:59 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-13 0:07 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-13 8:28 ` tomas
2008-03-11 22:42 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-03-11 22:38 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-11 23:31 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-11 23:46 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-12 1:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-12 15:11 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-12 15:11 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-12 15:54 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-12 17:39 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-12 20:03 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-12 22:00 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-13 1:06 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-13 2:00 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-10 22:32 ` Miles Bader [this message]
2008-03-11 18:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-11 9:24 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-10 17:16 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-10 18:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-11 20:25 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-11 20:41 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-12 15:11 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-11 22:33 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-03-06 16:46 ` position on changing defaults? Stefan Monnier
2008-03-07 2:08 ` Miles Bader
2008-03-08 6:28 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-08 17:40 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-08 19:08 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-08 18:07 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-08 20:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-09 16:40 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-09 22:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-09 22:56 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-09 23:17 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-11 9:25 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-11 10:24 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-11 16:02 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-09 20:53 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-07 3:38 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-05 23:52 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-06 0:34 ` Miles Bader
2008-03-06 1:00 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-06 1:18 ` Bastien
2008-03-06 17:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-08 17:40 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-08 19:12 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-09 16:40 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-09 22:35 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-09 23:11 ` CUA mode's C-RET binding [was: position on changing defaults?] Drew Adams
2008-03-09 23:36 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-09 23:46 ` CUA mode's C-RET binding Miles Bader
2008-03-09 23:50 ` CUA mode's C-RET binding [was: position on changing defaults?] Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-10 0:00 ` CUA mode's C-RET binding Miles Bader
2008-03-10 0:18 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-10 0:02 ` CUA mode's C-RET binding [was: position on changing defaults?] Drew Adams
2008-03-10 10:13 ` Mathias Dahl
2008-03-10 13:47 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-10 14:32 ` Johan Bockgård
2008-03-10 14:53 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-11 0:07 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-11 20:25 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-11 20:50 ` CUA mode's C-RET binding Manoj Srivastava
2008-03-12 0:37 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-12 15:12 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-12 17:30 ` Manoj Srivastava
2008-03-12 20:21 ` Dangerous shell commands? (was: CUA mode's C-RET binding) Reiner Steib
2008-03-12 21:23 ` Dangerous shell commands? David Kastrup
2008-03-13 0:14 ` Manoj Srivastava
2008-03-11 14:44 ` CUA mode's C-RET binding [was: position on changing defaults?] Mathias Dahl
2008-03-11 15:09 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-13 11:20 ` Mathias Dahl
2008-03-13 17:26 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-11 9:25 ` position on changing defaults? Richard Stallman
2008-03-08 19:25 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-08 20:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-08 23:38 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-08 23:51 ` Miles Bader
2008-03-09 2:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-09 16:39 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-10 16:11 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-11 10:28 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-08 20:56 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-09 8:38 ` Making the command loop mode-dependent [was: position on changing defaults?] Alan Mackenzie
2008-03-07 3:38 ` position on changing defaults? Richard Stallman
2008-03-07 10:50 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-09 2:18 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-09 2:40 ` Miles Bader
2008-03-09 22:06 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-09 22:13 ` Miles Bader
2008-03-09 22:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-09 23:44 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-09 23:57 ` Miles Bader
2008-03-10 1:00 ` Johan Bockgård
2008-03-10 17:16 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-11 10:35 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-11 18:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-12 0:19 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-12 9:56 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-12 14:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-12 23:56 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-13 1:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-13 2:01 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-13 2:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-13 16:57 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-14 2:55 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-14 9:51 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-13 7:45 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-13 12:45 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-13 13:28 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-13 20:39 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-13 21:55 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-13 23:56 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-13 22:24 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-13 22:47 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-13 22:49 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-14 16:44 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-13 23:30 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-13 15:41 ` Chong Yidong
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