From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Hansen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Octave Help Mode? Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:04:08 +0200 Organization: disorganized Message-ID: <87prsrclrr.fsf@localhorst.mine.nu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208265041 5692 80.91.229.12 (15 Apr 2008 13:10:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:10:41 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 15 15:11:17 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jlkug-0006ks-0u for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:09:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jlku1-0002Pj-Kp for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:08:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jlkti-0002P8-NB for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:08:30 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jlkth-0002M2-7d for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:08:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jlktg-0002Lq-UT for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:08:28 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jlktg-0007B1-BX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:08:28 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Jlkta-0004Ef-4W for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:08:22 +0000 Original-Received: from e178020046.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.20.46]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:08:22 +0000 Original-Received: from david.hansen by e178020046.adsl.alicedsl.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:08:22 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 65 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: e178020046.adsl.alicedsl.de Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.110009 (No Gnus v0.9) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:PQemuC6xVxKZaRLRRYGQncbB450= X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:53304 Archived-At: On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:42:41 +0200 Christian Herenz wrote: > David Hansen schrieb: >> It's working here but I use a developer version of emacs. Is C-h S >> working? > > I am not at my computer at the moment, so I cannot test this. However, > I noted yesterday, when browsing the GNU Octave Info File lots of > Nodes which are shown in the index are actually not present. Is this > right, or does openSUSE ship a wrong info file. Sorry, this tends to > be more an octave question, but since I am using it inside Emacs, I > ask here. This seems to be suses fault. With Debians GNU Octave, version 3.0.0 the manual looks pretty complete here. >> >> To the emacs-devels: >> >> Is there any need for `ocatave-help' if `info-lookup-symbol' is doing >> the same (as far as I can see)? > > Mh, maybe octave-help, if working properly should just search the > octave manual, That's exactly what info-lookup-symbol does. It takes the info manual that fits best to the current major mode. E.g. in c-mode it would just use the libc manual. > so if there is an ambivalence between a octave 'symbol' > and something which is actually not octave, wrong results could be > retrived. In this case "symbol" just means "something in the index" and defaults to the (syntactically) symbol at the current cursor position. >> Maybe adjust INFO_PATH but that sounds like a Debilian bug. >> > > Do you mean the shell-variable INFO_PATH, which I would export in my > .profile (or simialar), or do you mean something emacs-specific? The shell variable > As stated above, just entering "info octave" in a normal terminal > works fine. Hmm, you can try to set `Info-additional-directory-list' then, but this actually looks more like an Emacs bug to me. > The thing is, I really want to work with octave, and I just think it > is good to look something up directly inside the environment I am > doing my octave stuff (i.e. emacs), however since I am fan of printed > works I ordered via my libary today the "GNU Octave Manual" by > J.W. Eaton (Network Theory Ltd.). Since it is not present in my > home-libary I have to wait a little bit (cause its inter-libary loan), > but I will fill out some forms today, that more "official" printed GNU > Documentation will be available in our libary soon. At present, there > is actually none :( You can also produce pdf or ps from the texinfo sources if that is good enough for you. David