From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Yavor Doganov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1171: #1171 - ns-version-string - Emacs bug report logs Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:11:53 +0300 Organization: The GNU Emacs Church (Bulgarian eparchy) Message-ID: <87prlsz65i.GNU's_Not_Unix!%yavor@gnu.org> References: <7DF28CA0-8DDC-4EF3-81EE-01DC314E7228@gmail.com> <87fxmozysi.GNU's_Not_Unix!%yavor@gnu.org> <3C1C1C39-E1D2-48D4-9012-E7A45BC82C0B@gmail.com> Reply-To: Yavor Doganov , 1171@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1224711069 28052 80.91.229.12 (22 Oct 2008 21:31:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:31:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Yavor Doganov , 1171@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, Stefan Monnier To: Adrian Robert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 22 23:32:10 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KslJC-0006fm-TX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:12:00 +0300 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=gana.yavor.doganov.org) by gana.yavor.doganov.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Kskzh-0000BP-Ak; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:11:53 +0300 In-Reply-To: <3C1C1C39-E1D2-48D4-9012-E7A45BC82C0B@gmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: Adrian Robert , Glenn Morris , 1171@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, Stefan Monnier , Yavor Doganov User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.5 (Almost Unreal) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.9 =?UTF-8?Q?(Goj=C5=8D)?= APEL/10.7 Emacs/22.3 (i486-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-Jabber-ID: doganov@jabber.minus273.org X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.0.5 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: yavor@gnu.org X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:14:11 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on yavor.doganov.org) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:30:33 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:21802 Archived-At: Adrian Robert wrote: > > OK, I've changed it to output a version number determined > compile-time from the toolkit Thanks, it looks very good and works fine on GNUstep. However, there seems to be something inconsistent (unrelated to your changes): In GNU Emacs 23.0.60 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, NS gnustep-gui-0.12.0) of 2008-10-22 on gana.yavor.doganov.org Windowing system distributor `GNU', version 103.110.117.115.116.101.112.45.103.117.105.45.48.46.49.50.46.48 On GNU and Unix-like systems GNUstep uses X, so I find this very strange and of course not informative at all. I haven't checked why `x-server-version' is so bizarre in this case, but probably you know already. > Yavor, if you decide Well, I can't decide anything since I'm not an Emacs developer ;-) > it's better to report the GNUstep base version > also, you can use NSFoundationVersionNumber for OS X. GNUstep Base is fairly stable and complete, and I guess so is Apple's FoundationKit (which is the main reason why gnustep-base is in such a shape, of course). I guess the reasoning to include it in `emacs-version' is if it helps with bug reports. Although there were some very nasty bugs in -base (even recently), it is more or less mature. Time will tell, I think. > nextstep/GNUstep/Emacs.base/Resources/Emacs.desktop IMHO this is entirely useless for GNUstep, because: 1) Typically, GNUstep users do not use freedesktop.org-aware environments such as GNOME/KDE/Xfce. 2) Even in the rare cases when they do, the .desktop files must be in $(datadir)/applications (or ~/.local/share/applications) in order to be parsed, loaded and to show up in the menus. 3) The file is invalid (this can be fixed, certainly, but it is a general problem with all standard GNUstep apps where the pl2link tool generates broken .desktop files and puts them in the wrong place).