From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why Emacs should have a good web-browser Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:33:06 +0200 Message-ID: <87prbtvwgt.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> References: <87ocrjl2r6.fsf@gmail.com> <87zlb2bwyj.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87bpnefl73.fsf@gmail.com> <1248196427.7551.38.camel@dell-desktop.example.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1248259939 23113 80.91.229.12 (22 Jul 2009 10:52:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 10:52:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Thomas Lord , ferkiwi+a@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , Paul R , Miles Bader To: Adam =?utf-8?Q?Wo=C5=82k?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 22 12:52:11 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MTZQM-0005lD-F1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:52:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48508 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MTZQL-0001ZJ-O2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:51:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MTZ9H-0005eW-4i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:34:11 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MTZ9B-0005dm-01 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:34:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49463 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MTZ9A-0005db-HK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:34:04 -0400 Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([141.26.64.15]:28775) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MTZ96-0006PQ-NI; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:34:00 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6242378A0E9D; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:33:59 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (deliver.uni-koblenz.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07942-03; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:33:58 +0200 (CEST) X-CHKRCPT: Envelopesender vrfy tassilo@member.fsf.org Original-Received: from thinkpad.tsdh.de (unknown [141.26.95.15]) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C9E78A0E99; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:33:11 +0200 (CEST) Mail-Copies-To: never In-Reply-To: ("Adam =?utf-8?Q?Wo?= =?utf-8?Q?=C5=82k=22's?= message of "Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:21:30 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at uni-koblenz.de X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Error: [-] ERROR: /var/run/p0f.sock: Connection refused X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:113000 Archived-At: Adam Wo=C5=82k writes: Hi Adam, > There already exists a browser that tries to implement things the > Emacs way. It's called conkeror. I agree that Conkeror is a good browser for emacs users, but I'd like to add another browser to the discussion: uzbl [1]. It's not specially designed for emacs users (keybindings etc.), but instead it uses by default vi-like bindings (but those can be modified.) It uses the slogan that it adheres the UNIX philosophy, e.g. it does one thing very good (rendering web pages using WebKit) and it delegates everything else to other tools (downloads, cookies, bookmarks, history, ...), which could be elisp handlers. IMHO, this approach makes it suited best for creating a browser *inside* emacs, not just a browser designed *for* emacs users. Bye, Tassilo __________ [1] http://www.uzbl.org/