From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: jidanni@jidanni.org Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3643: emacs -Q doesn't fit on the user's screen Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:52:47 +0800 Message-ID: <87pr4w6nuo.fsf@jidanni.org> References: <4B5FDB52.9020300@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1264576211 7813 80.91.229.12 (27 Jan 2010 07:10:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 07:10:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, 3643@debbugs.gnu.org To: jan.h.d@swipnet.se Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 27 08:10:03 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Na22M-0003B2-QS for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:10:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54998 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Na22O-0004oU-0u for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 02:10:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Na22I-0004oP-IW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 02:09:58 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Na22D-0004nu-Dq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 02:09:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34576 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Na22D-0004nr-8t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 02:09:53 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:42448) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Na22C-0002HY-WA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 02:09:53 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Na1lt-0006hD-PN; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 01:53:01 -0500 X-Loop: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <87d48x5n1a.fsf@jidanni.org> Resent-From: jidanni@jidanni.org Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 06:53:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 3643 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 3643-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B3643.126457517625733 (code B ref 3643); Wed, 27 Jan 2010 06:53:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3643) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jan 2010 06:52:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Na1lo-0006h0-1R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 01:52:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mailbigip.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.5] helo=homiemail-a38.g.dreamhost.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Na1lm-0006gp-Gc for 3643@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 01:52:54 -0500 Original-Received: from jidanni.org (125-230-46-117.dynamic.hinet.net [125.230.46.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by homiemail-a38.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3773AD4EF5; Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:52:50 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Score: -3.6 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 01:53:01 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:34751 Archived-At: JD> It is almost always easier to enlarge a window than shrinking a window JD> that is too big for the screen. Experienced user can set the sizes JD> they want. Yes but the whole point of this bug report is that we want $ emacs -Q to look good to the first time user right out of the box. That emacs comes up with its feet stuck underneath the toolbar, whilst firefox or any other program the user has ever run, don't do that, tell him something.