From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: AW: delete-selection-mode Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:02:05 -0400 Message-ID: <87pr31wg8y.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <20100317.200901.408057447.hanche@math.ntnu.no> <87sk7y2gh9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <9C7C186F-EDB5-4837-977B-1B9BA2695BD1@mit.edu> <20100318.141342.367418699.hanche@math.ntnu.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1268942544 9192 80.91.229.12 (18 Mar 2010 20:02:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:02:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Harald Hanche-Olsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 18 21:02:19 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsLv7-0000Lo-Uz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:02:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45324 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NsLv7-0005Vl-Cg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:02:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NsLv1-0005Sm-1C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:02:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=56506 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NsLuy-0005Or-Hl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:02:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsLuw-0000PJ-Vd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:02:08 -0400 Original-Received: from pantheon-po25.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.119]:39562) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsLuw-0000P3-Qp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:02:06 -0400 Original-Received: from furry (dhcp128036014175.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.175]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po25.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2IK25Yg031313 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:02:05 -0400 Original-Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 99D0FC011; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:02:05 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20100318.141342.367418699.hanche@math.ntnu.no> (Harald Hanche-Olsen's message of "Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:13:42 -0400 (EDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.94 (gnu/linux) X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122204 Archived-At: Harald Hanche-Olsen writes: > With no region active, use shift+movement commands to create a > region. Hit an unshifted arrow key, and the highlight goes away. So > far so good. > > Next, repeat this, but hit C-x C-x while the region is still > active. Hit an unshifted arrow key, and the highlight goes away. Okay. > > Finally, hit C-x C-x again. The region is visible again, but this > time, unshifted arrow keys don't make it go away. This seems > inconsistent, and might well confuse the beginner who has just started > learning about C-x C-x. shift-selection is an inferior method of marking a region. We provide shift-selection because the keybindings don't conflict with the canonical method, but it is a special case. "The beginner who has just started learning about C-x C-x" should be learning about the canonical method of manipulating regions (i.e., using a proper region, such as by typing C-SPC and moving the point away).