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From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
To: David De La Harpe Golden <david@harpegolden.net>
Cc: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Selection changes
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 10:02:44 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pqym2a4r.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C40FCEC.9030404@harpegolden.net> (David De La Harpe Golden's message of "Sat, 17 Jul 2010 01:44:28 +0100")

David De La Harpe Golden <david@harpegolden.net> writes:
> N.B. that definitely needs to be _off_ for bringing emacs in line with
> other apps.  If it's on, it means C-y inserts primary and pushes primary
> onto the kill ring.

Why is that bad?

After all absolute consistency in the sense of "do _exactly_ what other
apps do" is not the goal.  The goal is for Emacs to work smoothly and
intuitively with other apps -- and those other apps include those which
use selections rather than the clipboard.

I'm not arguing based on principle, but rather because I've been using
it that way (with x-select-enable-primary set to t) for many years with
many other standard apps of both sorts, and it seems to work almost
perfectly this way.  So I'm very wary of changing it for polemic reasons.

In particular:

  * selecting some text in a cut/past style app, and invoking "copy" in
    that app, should allow the copied text to be pasted in emacs with
    C-y.

  * selecting some text in a selection-using app (e.g. xterm) should
    allow the selected text to be pasted in emacs with C-y.

Thanks,

-Miles

-- 
Bore, n. A person who talks when you wish him to listen.



  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-17  1:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-14 18:08 Selection changes Chong Yidong
2010-07-14 18:39 ` Jeff Clough
2010-07-14 18:53   ` Chong Yidong
2010-07-14 19:02     ` Jeff Clough
2010-07-14 19:25 ` Yann Hodique
2010-07-14 20:28   ` Chong Yidong
2010-07-14 23:51 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-07-16  1:31 ` Richard Stallman
2010-07-16  2:49   ` Miles Bader
2010-07-17  0:44 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-07-17  1:02   ` Miles Bader [this message]
2010-07-17  2:28     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-07-17  2:56       ` Chong Yidong
2010-07-17  3:30         ` Miles Bader
2010-07-17  3:49           ` Chong Yidong
2010-07-22 21:21           ` Drew Adams
2010-07-22 22:05             ` Chong Yidong
2010-07-23 10:32               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-24 18:44                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-07-24 20:28                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-24 21:48                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-07-25 16:32                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-07-17  3:50         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-07-17  3:55           ` Chong Yidong
2010-07-17  4:13             ` Chong Yidong
2010-07-17 16:55               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-07-18 16:24               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-07-17 10:50         ` Wojciech Meyer
2010-07-17 11:01           ` Miles Bader
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-07-16  1:00 Angelo Graziosi
2010-07-16  9:33 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-07-17 23:49   ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-07-18 19:28     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-07-18 22:39       ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-07-16 12:14 ` Angelo Graziosi
2011-05-27 16:25 Chong Yidong
2011-05-28  4:13 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2011-05-31  0:59   ` Taylor Venable
2011-05-28 11:16 ` Andreas Röhler

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