From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7626: mm-charset-override-alist (was: bug#7626: bug#7651: 23.2.91; Rmail doesn't allow displaying text attachments conveniently) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 09:07:30 +0100 Message-ID: <87pqrubpod.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> References: <83vd28q46b.fsf@gnu.org> <83oc7tkv4x.fsf@gnu.org> <83ipxuie35.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1295339093 15732 80.91.229.12 (18 Jan 2011 08:24:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 08:24:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org To: Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 18 09:24:49 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pf6rw-0006z6-QB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 09:24:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48593 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Pf6rw-00046T-2x for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 03:24:48 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=49457 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Pf6rm-00044F-Rl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 03:24:40 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pf6rl-0002SA-8y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 03:24:38 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:55495) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pf6rl-0002S6-4X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 03:24:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pf6Tz-0006aG-Qk; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 03:00:03 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Reiner Steib Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 08:00:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.129533759625275 (code B ref 7626); Tue, 18 Jan 2011 08:00:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jan 2011 07:59:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pf6Ts-0006Zb-5A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 02:59:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.1.11]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pf6To-0006ZN-Bg for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 02:59:53 -0500 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.10.175]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p0I87YjS004467; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 09:07:34 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E76110852; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 09:07:34 +0100 (CET) X-Face: :6KQZ[nyoS_edmB.%gw-=)BYth^|2+Y+^cu%I$FSx!&>-'om>3H7A|M&n(V7fIo3P.; yo.b yq4$p; ZaBtkv)\}biaiBQe"mD}iib1AA@99-fZ7i*bLhNRVC&0Wkxg9)SH?oWc@{ Mail-Followup-To: Kenichi Handa , Eli Zaretskii , 7626@debbugs.gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Kenichi Handa's message of "Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:23:11 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-dmv.com-Metrics: poseidon 1181; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 03:00:03 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:43422 Archived-At: On Fri, Jan 14 2011, Kenichi Handa wrote: > Eli Zaretskii writes: >> I guess this is because some broken mailers state Latin-N while >> actually using the corresponding Windows codepage, and when the >> message includes characters not in Latin-N, they are not displayed >> correctly. Exactly. >> But even if we keep this "feature" (see below for an alternative >> suggestion), I don't see a need to force this on users. We should >> have a user option to do this. Personally, I think it should be off >> by default, but if someone feels strongly about that, I won't mind >> having it on by default, in which case I will customize it on my >> system. I think `mm-charset-override-alist' should be on by default. Before I added (back in 2005) we frequently had complains about "why doesn't Gnus display this article correctly?". I don't recall any real problems with this. >> > At the moment, I don't know how (or where) to fix this >> > problem, but at least, it seems that setting >> > buffer-file-coding-system to windows-1252 for iso-8859-1 >> > message won't cause an actual problem. > >> It's surprising and kludgey, IMO. A better solution would be to >> decode by windows-12XX, but set last-coding-system-used to Latin-N. >> That way, only if I reuse the text that is not encodable by Latin-N, I >> will need to do something. Otherwise, I get to have the cake and eat >> it, too. > > I don't want to modify rfc2047.el nor mm-util.el now. Thank you. (I don't have an opinion about what Rmail should do.) Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/