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From: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: url library and GnuTLS, and Emacs-issued certificates
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 14:42:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pqpgpdgq.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m34o6ti0cd.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org> (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 24 Mar 2011 05:55:30 +0100")

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> tls.el is quite simple.  You start openssl/gnutls-cli as a subprocess
> with the correct parameters, parse the output slightly, and then talk
> over the socket.
>
> starttls.el is a bit different.  You call `open-starttls-stream', which
> starts gnutls-cli in unencrypted mode.  Then you do protocol-specific
> things to see whether the server supports STARTTLS.  If it does, you
> issue the commands necessary for the server to start talking TLS.  You
> then call `startls-negotiate' which sends a signal to gnutls-cli which
> makes gnutls-cli go to encrypted mode, parses the output from
> gnutls-cli, and returns the status of the now-encrypted socket.

I see.  Thanks for the explanation.  A couple more questions:

How about gnutls.el?  If I understand correctly, open-gnutls-stream
works just like open-tls-stream, except it uses the gnutls library
directly instead of using a command line client---and it does not
support the mode of operation provided in starttls.el.  Correct?

Also, does this mean it's impossible to use open-tls-stream and
open-gnutls-stream to opportunistically open a TLS stream?  I see that
proto-stream.el, in `network' mode, opens a connection using
starttls-open-stream and then uses gnutls-negotiate from gnutls.el to do
the negotiation; what's the advantage of doing this?



  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-24 18:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-19 16:21 expand tls to elpa.gnu.org axel.junker
2011-03-21 18:28 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-21 21:17   ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-21 22:33     ` url library and GnuTLS, and Emacs-issued certificates (was: expand tls to elpa.gnu.org) Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-23 15:30       ` url library and GnuTLS, and Emacs-issued certificates Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-23 18:31         ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-23 18:47           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-23 19:20           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-23 21:51             ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-24  4:55               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-24 18:42                 ` Chong Yidong [this message]
2011-03-24 19:45                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-24 19:23             ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-24 19:33               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-24 19:37               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-26 23:32                 ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-26 23:39                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-27  1:23                     ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-27 10:31                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-27  0:20                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-27  1:30                     ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-27 10:36                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-27 17:42                         ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-28  0:34                           ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-29 20:54                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-30  2:20                               ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-26 12:07           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-26 13:39             ` Reiner Steib
2011-03-26 14:09               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-28  6:51                 ` Reiner Steib
2011-03-26 19:40             ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-26 23:36               ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-27  1:31                 ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-27  1:52                   ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-28 15:10             ` Ted Zlatanov

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