From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Earl Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Limited-access technical advice Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 13:07:15 -0600 Message-ID: <87pqnzk3h8.fsf@notengoamigos.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1304449637 1906 80.91.229.12 (3 May 2011 19:07:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 19:07:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 03 21:07:13 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QHKwA-0007RF-IC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 May 2011 21:07:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45474 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QHKwA-0007Xg-1U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 May 2011 15:07:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:43004) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QHKw6-0007Xa-OX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 May 2011 15:07:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QHKw5-00076U-S1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 May 2011 15:07:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout14.yourhostingaccount.com ([65.254.253.114]:36711) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QHKw4-00075g-Oz; Tue, 03 May 2011 15:07:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscan20.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.20] helo=mailscan20.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout14.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1QHKw1-0008Ow-5D; Tue, 03 May 2011 15:07:01 -0400 Original-Received: from impout03.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.3] helo=impout03.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan20.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1QHKw0-0008FD-Va; Tue, 03 May 2011 15:07:01 -0400 Original-Received: from authsmtp11.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.11]) by impout03.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id f7701g00H0EKrUA0000000; Tue, 03 May 2011 15:07:00 -0400 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.11 X-EN-IMPSID: f7701g00H0EKrUA0000000 Original-Received: from [67.214.244.122] (helo=c3po) by authsmtp11.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1QHKw0-0002Nv-CY; Tue, 03 May 2011 15:07:00 -0400 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwCAAAAAByaaZbAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAAAFz UkdCAK7OHOkAAAAgY0hSTQAAeiYAAICEAAD6AAAAgOgAAHUwAADqYAAAOpgAABdwnLpRPAAAAAlw SFlzAAASmwAAEpsB4JJZDAAAAAl2cEFnAAAAMAAAADAAzu6MVwAAAaFJREFUSMe1VtuxxSAIzIz9 2Iyl2Aj1bBX0k5+LrwjGjJyPy2ROwtGNBJbVCwwwy1UNoOL3f+SBxkj15Lr4NsboN24DWMZxYQNA TjGmjC1gswJiqBbpDeANYMwXBFyAFB5L7ADMBcoSDgAFBSDHR2tA8ABMSB4AawB76pAnILsKx2lm 1VfpgUi3kxrySylRHdmQj40Jva2/jl8EY3Twv/phhsC9nIQR0hnAOUptYsL3RxvAk+YIH2AWsvTH GYBgKn8GaPYm5jNANaCQ8WfAzyH9x0crFfGl9X4QVdg8gEqN2KjBHi6V/iBq6iyAxTqd+Yvupwai VwM9LZkxQ6otihmS6H+mHlK5URwi0UQgWxHoxS5JagBSed7IzJRCallS2pg2QsamcGUFNSHgLZUv augJIUualv1Bv6+yVat1oeMq92s/mBBWQJH7dQX7CnpvWWs/4CazpHlB2RR1BFSzNGdIaTbbLil8 U76BKKU0GztapXP3C78bNYQ6MTQybY8OkIaITf9HPzyHkXE4YXs4mf5VDz+jAepj3RTQ3Ubv0SPy 9AcCrfKh0TBgvgAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAxMS0wMS0wM1QxMDo1MDo1NC0wNzowMIgC s0IAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMTAtMDQtMDVUMTM6MjQ6NDgtMDY6MDCtwF/YAAAAAElF TkSuQmCC In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 03 May 2011 14:49:56 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-EN-UserInfo: f8a5a3c49e1c4664ba81facb1022c4a9:67ddfe7aeaee6d1ea5b788d961d42633 X-EN-AuthUser: jearl@notengoamigos.org X-EN-OrigIP: 67.214.244.122 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 65.254.253.114 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:139063 Archived-At: On Tue, May 03 2011, Richard Stallman wrote: > It was reported to me that a lot of technical advice about Emacs is > requested and given in Google groups, which are only visible to people > who use Gmail. Google Groups is mostly just a web front end for USENET. In fact, if you go to groups.google.com and search for "emacs" gnu.emacs.help and comp.emacs are the two groups that come up as matches. Of the two groups gnu.emacs.help is far and away the most active. So the good news is that chances are extremely good that the technical advice that was reported to you as being on "Google Groups" is actually being done on gnu.emacs.help. I believe that you *do* have to have a Google account to post to Google Groups, but you can read the group without one. Not that I would recommend using Google Groups to read gnu.emacs.help. For all of Google's technical acumen they do not appear to even attempt to filter spam on their newsfeeds. Jason