From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#10384: 23.2; Emacs Lisp Reference Manual - incorrect or unclear documentation about invocation condition of hooks pre-command-hook and post-command-hook Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 16:36:02 +0800 Message-ID: <87pqe5bkzx.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87y5txhcmi.fsf@felix-laptop.gnung> <5fehv5hngo.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1327653395 5001 80.91.229.12 (27 Jan 2012 08:36:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 08:36:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 10384@debbugs.gnu.org, Bruno =?UTF-8?Q?F=C3=A9lix?= Rezende Ribeiro To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 27 09:36:31 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RqhIN-0005vF-Ar for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 09:36:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60709 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RqhIM-0005Bq-Sw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:36:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:43434) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RqhIJ-0005A2-6q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:36:28 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RqhIH-0008TZ-Q6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:36:27 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:40773) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RqhIH-0008TV-LZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:36:25 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RqhIr-0001Iz-VW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:37:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Chong Yidong Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 08:37:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10384 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 10384-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10384.13276534114990 (code B ref 10384); Fri, 27 Jan 2012 08:37:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 10384) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jan 2012 08:36:51 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46157 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RqhIg-0001IQ-W1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:36:51 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:36713 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RqhIf-0001IJ-0s for 10384@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:36:50 -0500 Original-Received: from [155.69.17.161] (port=44770 helo=furball) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RqhI2-0002m3-G7; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:36:11 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 11 Jan 2012 20:24:34 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:56073 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >>>> Normal hook run before each command is executed. >>> >>> I could perhaps change this to say: >>> >>> Normal hook run before any command is executed interactively. > >> This probably isn't an improvement though, because it might suggest that >> call-interactively runs these hooks, when it doesn't. > > Agreed. If we want to be more careful we'd have to say something like > "Hook run before the command loop executes a command". I've clarified the Lisp manual along these lines.