From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs on OS X development Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 14:57:54 -0400 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87pq7m5mq5.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87r4s68rr4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83A41E83-79C8-4490-966B-CD224041E840@gmail.com> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1343069897 21303 80.91.229.3 (23 Jul 2012 18:58:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:58:17 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 23 20:58:17 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1StNpe-0007wf-Gu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:58:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57598 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1StNpd-0007kS-V0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 14:58:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55704) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1StNpb-0007fP-1G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 14:58:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1StNpZ-0001dX-PT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 14:58:10 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:38462) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1StNpZ-0001dF-Ie for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 14:58:09 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1StNpX-0007ra-Hb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:58:07 +0200 Original-Received: from c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net ([76.28.40.19]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:58:07 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:58:07 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:467qZIeaY6T1oG/VvAKK62qGR54= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:151820 Archived-At: On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:40:01 +0300 Pavlo Martynenko wrote: PM> I can repeat it again. PM> NS port is ugly, and has problems with C-g, font rendering, modifier keys, multiprocessing, networking. PM> Some times NS port stops respond on network requests and C-g does not help. PM> See the difference on https://vimeo.com/46028049. (look and feel only) I was not saying you and the other people complaining about the NS port are wrong, just wanted to say I haven't experienced those problems. The first step to finding and fixing bugs and problems is to understand where and why they happen. Maybe the NS port's problems are linked to something in the OS or user environment. Do you compile your own binaries, for instance? Do you have problems with some specific network connections? As far as "ugly" I have no opinion, and haven't noticed font issues or other visual problems. The NS port's functionality has been all right for me, especially keyboard entry, multiprocessing, and networking. I'd file bugs if I couldn't use Gnus and the other functionality I mentioned earlier. Ted