From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs insists on starting dbus? Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 10:17:37 +0200 Message-ID: <87pq7bowke.fsf@gmx.de> References: <20120731.164910.1735362134333062173.hanche@math.ntnu.no> <87wr1jzuid.fsf@gmx.de> <3AD89B66-B751-4039-9563-9597161D7F68@swipnet.se> <87lihzzrcl.fsf@gmx.de> <7C24B120-12D9-435D-AD7A-B20F913E3E85@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1343809082 16122 80.91.229.3 (1 Aug 2012 08:18:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 08:18:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Harald Hanche-Olsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jan =?utf-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 01 10:18:01 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SwU81-0005s0-Ml for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2012 10:18:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38436 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SwU81-0005po-0V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2012 04:18:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38853) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SwU7u-0005pE-41 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2012 04:17:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SwU7o-0006Uc-3P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2012 04:17:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.23]:59995) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SwU7n-0006U9-Os for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2012 04:17:48 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 01 Aug 2012 08:17:45 -0000 Original-Received: from p57BB9575.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO detlef.gmx.de) [87.187.149.117] by mail.gmx.net (mp027) with SMTP; 01 Aug 2012 10:17:45 +0200 X-Authenticated: #3708877 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+p5wFX3P6pc1/4W9XLm2tHTmffO007QR23D5P0GF ymwpmcQFm0rpcT User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 213.165.64.23 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:152063 Archived-At: Jan Dj=C3=A4rv writes: > Hello. Hi, > Why? I usually configure --without-dbus, but want Gsettings. > If we for example implement the Unity menubar thing (i.e. kind of like > OSX menu bar at the top of the desktop), that will also use dbus. I see your point. Well, let's do it another way. > Must we document every feature that might use dbus? We don't have > control over that. People who want to suppress D-Bus autolaunch are not very familiar with D-Bus, in general. We shall give them some help. D-Bus people know the problem of hanging autolaunched D-Bus sessions over ssh connections, see the discussion in . AFAICS, there is no fix integrated yet into the D-Bus sources. Until there is a solution on D-Bus side, we might add a configure option --without-dbus-autolaunch. This would have the same effect as "--without-dbus --without-gconf --without-gsettings" for now, maybe we need to add other libraries later. > Jan D. Best regards, Michael.