* bug#12932: 24.2; Installing GNOME .desktop file to incorrect location
@ 2012-11-19 8:49 markskilbeck
2012-11-19 17:09 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: markskilbeck @ 2012-11-19 8:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 12932
When compiling and installing Emacs, the GNOME .desktop file is
installed to /usr/local/share/applications; however, according to the
documentation[1], the correct locations are: /usr/share/applications and
~/.local/share/applications. As such, GNOME[-shell] does not allow
opening Emacs through means other than using $PATH.
-- mgsk
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of 2012-11-18 on earth
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* bug#12932: 24.2; Installing GNOME .desktop file to incorrect location
2012-11-19 8:49 bug#12932: 24.2; Installing GNOME .desktop file to incorrect location markskilbeck
@ 2012-11-19 17:09 ` Glenn Morris
2012-11-19 19:06 ` Glenn Morris
2012-11-19 20:08 ` Mark Skilbeck
0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2012-11-19 17:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: markskilbeck; +Cc: 12932
markskilbeck@gmail.com wrote:
> When compiling and installing Emacs, the GNOME .desktop file is
> installed to /usr/local/share/applications; however, according to the
> documentation[1],
Reference [1] seems to be missing AFAICS.
> the correct locations are: /usr/share/applications and
> ~/.local/share/applications.
Thanks for the report. My initial reaction, without having read the
Gnome docs, is that this is a Gnome bug (obviously this won't be a
helpful response for you). If I compile something with --prefix=/foo, I
get annoyed if it installs files outside /foo.
Installing in /usr/share/applications is a definite no-go, because then
we could clobber a pre-existing emacs.desktop belonging to the system.
I supposed we could perhaps only install here if there was not already
an emacs.desktop, but this does not seem like a great solution to me.
Installing in ~ is pointless, because it only works for the installing
user (doubly bad if this is root). You could of course make your own
symlink there to the /foo file, so perhaps what Emacs does now is a
reasonable compromise.
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* bug#12932: 24.2; Installing GNOME .desktop file to incorrect location
2012-11-19 17:09 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2012-11-19 19:06 ` Glenn Morris
2012-11-19 19:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-19 20:08 ` Mark Skilbeck
1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2012-11-19 19:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: markskilbeck; +Cc: 12932
I guess we could add an explicit configure option for where the desktop
file will be installed ($desktopdir in current Makefile), and leave the
default as it is now. I doubt the option will see much use though.
But the freedesktop spec does mention (obliquely) /usr/local:
http://specifications.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-latest.html
Install Locations
If an application is intended to be installed by root on a system
wide basis then /usr/share is recommended to be used as value for
datadir and /etc/xdg is recommended to be used as value for
sysconfdir. In case the /usr/share hierarchy is not writable it is
recommended to use /usr/local/share as value for datadir instead.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So, again, it seems like a Gnome bug to me if it doesn't check in
/usr/local as well as /usr (I didn't check whether or not it actually does).
See also
http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html
If $XDG_DATA_DIRS is either not set or empty, a value equal to
/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/ should be used.
Maybe your XDG_DATA_DIRS is set wrongly?
Of course, this doesn't help people who install with --prefix != /usr/local
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2012-11-19 19:06 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2012-11-19 19:49 ` Stefan Monnier
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2012-11-19 19:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 12932-done, markskilbeck
tags 12932 notabug
thanks
> So, again, it seems like a Gnome bug to me if it doesn't check in
> /usr/local as well as /usr (I didn't check whether or not it actually
> does).
Yes, tho I don't care if we should consider it as a bug in Gnome or what
else, but the behavior is correct.
If the user wants to install into /usr, then she should use "--prefix=/usr".
Stefan
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* bug#12932: 24.2; Installing GNOME .desktop file to incorrect location
2012-11-19 17:09 ` Glenn Morris
2012-11-19 19:06 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2012-11-19 20:08 ` Mark Skilbeck
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From: Mark Skilbeck @ 2012-11-19 20:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 12932
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:09:39PM -0500, Glenn Morris wrote:
> markskilbeck@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > When compiling and installing Emacs, the GNOME .desktop file is
> > installed to /usr/local/share/applications; however, according to the
> > documentation[1],
>
> Reference [1] seems to be missing AFAICS.
>
> > the correct locations are: /usr/share/applications and
> > ~/.local/share/applications.
>
> Thanks for the report. My initial reaction, without having read the
> Gnome docs, is that this is a Gnome bug (obviously this won't be a
> helpful response for you). If I compile something with --prefix=/foo, I
> get annoyed if it installs files outside /foo.
>
> Installing in /usr/share/applications is a definite no-go, because then
> we could clobber a pre-existing emacs.desktop belonging to the system.
> I supposed we could perhaps only install here if there was not already
> an emacs.desktop, but this does not seem like a great solution to me.
>
> Installing in ~ is pointless, because it only works for the installing
> user (doubly bad if this is root). You could of course make your own
> symlink there to the /foo file, so perhaps what Emacs does now is a
> reasonable compromise.
Apologies on the missing reference. Here it is:
http://developer.gnome.org/integration-guide/stable/desktop-files.html.en
The relevant part is:
Place this file in the /usr/share/applications directory so that it
is accessible by everyone, or in ~/.local/share/applications if you
only wish to make it accessible to a single user ...
However, I don't know if these are the only paths used--I will have to
confirm with GNOME developers.
-- mgsk (replying from a different email address)
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