From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs vs Scrivener Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 11:08:29 +0800 Message-ID: <87pq32wf9u.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <1353337311252-270162.post@n5.nabble.com> <31924288.1353339425198.JavaMail.root@elwamui-little.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <201211201807.qAKI7XqV012697@kcals.intra.maillard.im> <1353456798250-270396.post@n5.nabble.com> <87vcczqq10.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87vccugah2.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1353812717 15881 80.91.229.3 (25 Nov 2012 03:05:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 03:05:17 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 25 04:05:27 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TcSX8-0006aZ-Bm for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 04:05:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39278 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcSWx-0001RA-Db for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 22:05:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38587) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcSWr-0001QR-5c for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 22:05:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcSWq-0008TL-36 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 22:05:09 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:37239) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcSWp-0008Rx-Sv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 22:05:08 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TcSWw-0006T3-EE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 04:05:14 +0100 Original-Received: from 114.250.130.19 ([114.250.130.19]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 04:05:14 +0100 Original-Received: from eric by 114.250.130.19 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 04:05:14 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 33 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 114.250.130.19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:JTKCn4onDnoJk2pLNo/D5vG2S3c= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:87890 Archived-At: Bastien writes: > Hi Matt, > > Matt Price writes: > [...] >> - In concert with this, each document -- each piece of a project -- >> has both a title and a synopsis, which are represented by an "index >> card" You cna move index cards around within the project. I like >> this because sometimes, with a ocmplex piece of writing, it can be >> helpful to look at al the elements and rearrange them in space. A >> whiteboard is good for this, or scraps of paper on a blank table. >> Org-mode lets you refile headings easily, but the one-dimensional >> ordering isn't as satisfying to me as objects that can be dragged form >> one place to another. [...] > I don't know about the spatial metaphor, I'm not familiar enough with > scrivener. But there is surely room for small improvements tha makes > the Emacs experience even better. I think the idea here would be a pretty radical departure from Emacs' display engine: both in this thread and the earlier mention of Tinderbox, the goal would be a true two-dimensional canvas with shapes and colors, where each heading was represented by a malleable, positionable "blob" with certain attributes. Obviously this isn't something that either Emacs or Org should be responsible for -- I think Matt's suggestion of an HTML5 app based on an Org parser would be the only practicable solution. Lots of work though!