From: William Gardella <gardellawg@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How close is elisp to CL now?
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:57:55 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pq2hiq0c.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: kghip89vhx2.fsf@CDW764-BURTONS.QFTI.COM
Burton Samograd <burton@samograd.ca> writes:
> Matt Price <moptop99@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> how much closer does this get us to something like a 'concurrent
>> emacs', in which (e.g.) my emacs mailer can do background checks for
>> incoming mail while I am editing? For the moment I've abandoned emacs
>> as a mail environment precisely because the lack of that feature so
>> often made my work grind to a halt.
>
> There is work being done on a threaded emacs, but there is still much
> work to be done. A suggested fix for the mail problem you state is to
> start another instance of emacs and run your mail client there.
>
> One thing I've noticed is that network communication in emacs is
> normally handled with a libevent system (or something similar) so
> network communication acts like it's in a separate process. I'm not
> sure if clients like gnus take advantage of this type of network
> communication yet though, but I think a blockless email client is
> possible with current emacs technology.
>
> --
> Burton Samograd
Medium/long-term, yes, one goal of introducing lexical scoping is to
make concurrency possible. In the meantime, one possibility short of
concurrency--being pursued by org-mode for its new exporter library now
in tests for the 8.0 release, and also by Nic Ferrier's Elnode (
https://github.com/nicferrier/elnode ), and by John Wiegley's async.el--
is to use asynchronous Emacsen for big jobs and communications jobs.
Also, for Gnus specifically, emacs --batch jobs combined with using Gnus
in "Unplugged" mode is a good setup for background mail checking and
fast, non-blocking reading. See (info "(gnus) Batching Agents"); I run
a script similar to the one there as an hourly cron job, then read
offline.
--
Regards,
WGG
I use grml (http://grml.org/)
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Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-12-10 16:37 How close is elisp to CL now? juliewith
2012-12-10 17:14 ` Didier Verna
2012-12-10 18:05 ` Matt Price
[not found] ` <mailman.14991.1355162755.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-12-10 19:14 ` Burton Samograd
2012-12-10 20:57 ` William Gardella [this message]
2012-12-11 22:26 ` Julien Cubizolles
[not found] ` <mailman.15081.1355264829.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-12-12 7:02 ` William Gardella
2013-01-04 14:53 ` Julien Cubizolles
[not found] ` <mailman.14985.1355159920.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-12-12 1:01 ` WJ
[not found] <mailman.14982.1355157445.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-12-10 17:01 ` Burton Samograd
2012-12-10 22:02 ` Xavier Maillard
2012-12-10 21:41 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2012-12-10 23:16 ` juliewith
2012-12-11 12:30 ` Joost Kremers
2012-12-11 12:59 ` Jambunathan K
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