From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Eshell and Sudo Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 06:07:51 +0100 Message-ID: <87ppzyxl94.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87ehgg451n.fsf@gnu.org> <87txpc3wnn.fsf@gmx.de> <87wqu6u91q.fsf@gmx.de> <8738wulqvd.fsf@dimension8.tehua.net> <87fw0uu4c6.fsf@gmx.de> <8738wur054.fsf@dimension8.tehua.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1361164081 6219 80.91.229.3 (18 Feb 2013 05:08:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 05:08:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Aidan Gauland Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 18 06:08:21 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U7Ixh-0002bi-6Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 06:08:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56335 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U7IxN-0006FA-3H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 00:08:01 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34833) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U7IxJ-0006EE-JU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 00:07:59 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U7IxI-0006Pf-9Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 00:07:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:57162) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U7IxI-0006PX-0l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 00:07:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([10.1.76.34]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmx001) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MR9tJ-1UJiMP402J-00UXQY for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 06:07:54 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 18 Feb 2013 05:07:54 -0000 Original-Received: from p57BB97C2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO arthur.gmx.de) [87.187.151.194] by mail.gmx.net (mp034) with SMTP; 18 Feb 2013 06:07:54 +0100 X-Authenticated: #3708877 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/fzV1akYDfNTU+XRAyaoGVgyBHN8aDF77sR4fw/d vWLgTlsb7sCKnA In-Reply-To: <8738wur054.fsf@dimension8.tehua.net> (Aidan Gauland's message of "Mon, 18 Feb 2013 12:28:07 +1300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.21 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:157121 Archived-At: Aidan Gauland writes: Hi Aidan, > OK, then I'd say go ahead and commit the changes. I will, for sure. The question is rather whether to commit in the emacs-24 branch, or in trunk. I prefer the emacs-24 branch, because the changes are such simple. Glenn? Stefan? > I hope this clears up the recursive load problem. Any idea why this > appears erratically (for some people and not others)? Have you been > able to reproduce it consistently? Maybe there is a misunderstanding. The recursive load problem happens consistently with the recipe given by Ian. This is fixed by the (require 'tramp) forms in the patch. I was rather surprised to see that a "sudo id" sometimes refused to run. But this is covered by my second patch, which handles the defense mechanism of Tramp. > Regards, > Aidan Gauland Best regards, Michael.