From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jameson Graef Rollins Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7842: acknowledged by developer (control message for bug 7842) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:04:23 -0800 Message-ID: <87ppzsgu08.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> References: <8739owi45n.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> <87zjzfpx5j.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> <87txpnpwqb.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> <83fw178ah5.fsf@gnu.org> <87sj50m4hu.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> <83bobn51dz.fsf@gnu.org> <87d2vtce1h.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> <83mwuwn3b3.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1361552694 29692 80.91.229.3 (22 Feb 2013 17:04:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 17:04:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 7842@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 22 18:05:16 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U8w3e-0001eE-QZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 18:05:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38441 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8w3K-0002Wg-8h for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:04:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39323) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8w3A-0002UX-4L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:04:51 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8w35-0007D2-LV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:04:44 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:39084) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8w35-0007Cy-JL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:04:39 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8w4Q-0001Ru-03 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:06:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Jameson Graef Rollins Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 17:06:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7842 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 7842-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7842.13615527585561 (code B ref 7842); Fri, 22 Feb 2013 17:06:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7842) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Feb 2013 17:05:58 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44548 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8w4L-0001Re-VN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:05:58 -0500 Original-Received: from outgoing-mail.its.caltech.edu ([131.215.239.19]:34008) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8w4I-0001RS-Ro for 7842@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:05:56 -0500 Original-Received: from earth-doxen.imss.caltech.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by earth-doxen-postvirus (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4AD666E01FC; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:04:30 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from finestructure.net (cpe-76-166-145-133.socal.res.rr.com [76.166.145.133]) (Authenticated sender: jrollins) by earth-doxen-submit (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2103166E00FE; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:04:26 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by finestructure.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CB24761744; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:04:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83mwuwn3b3.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.15+8~gd4a7374 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/24.2.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:71650 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Feb 22 2013, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> This is first year programmer stuff. > > That was a nasty thing to say. It is uncalled for, because none of > the responses so far was either ad-hominem or disrespectful. Eli, I'm sorry I got frustrated, but really, your responses have been dismissive and unthoughtful. Instead of explaining or discussing the technical issues, you keep questioning why I would want to do this. I've explained three times now, very clearly. Please don't ask why I would care about doing this again. > The real reason is explained in the ELisp manual: > > It is impossible to separate the standard output and standard error > streams of the subprocess, because Emacs normally spawns the subprocess > inside a pseudo-TTY, and a pseudo-TTY has only one output channel. If > you want to keep the output to those streams separate, you should > redirect one of them to a file--for example, by using an appropriate > shell command. I don't believe this at all. Obviously the command can separate stdout From=20stderr or it wouldn't be able to capture stdout to a buffer and separately redirect stderr to a file. Come on, guys. Let's have a serious discussion here. 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