From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GSoC 2013 Date: Tue, 07 May 2013 00:32:17 +0900 Message-ID: <87ppx4w2da.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87txmkt9tc.fsf@tanger.home> <0wsj22aaw2.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87vc6xss1e.fsf@tanger.home> <87wqrdjy1j.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87txmh7aqn.fsf@tanger.home> <87vc6xjumn.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <379181EA-3CC0-47CE-B870-C9E5273C34F5@mit.edu> <8738u0lnft.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87li7so2mc.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87haig5mdc.fsf@tanger.home> <87r4hkw9q7.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8738u0xnxq.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1367854368 20459 80.91.229.3 (6 May 2013 15:32:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 15:32:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Daimrod , chad , joakim@verona.se, "emacs-devel@gnu.org Development" To: Bastien Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 06 17:32:46 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UZNPB-0008LM-Ce for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 May 2013 17:32:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40880 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UZNPA-0007bU-Uq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 May 2013 11:32:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36960) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UZNP4-0007Uo-1g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 May 2013 11:32:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UZNOy-0003kh-2l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 May 2013 11:32:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:35711) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UZNOx-0003g2-PC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 May 2013 11:32:32 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E2C9708AF; Tue, 7 May 2013 00:32:18 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E34111A2989; Tue, 7 May 2013 00:32:17 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <8738u0xnxq.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta32) "habanero" b0d40183ac79 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:159375 Archived-At: Bastien writes: > When you "refactor" what someone says, it would be fair to explicitely > say so, instead of just relying on the weak convention that [..] means > that *you* put what you want in the square brackets. On this list, I can always count on somebody else to point it out. > Also, I don't get the point of the whole thread: I checked out the org selection post-mortem meeting. Did you? There were plenty of orgs that obviously worked hard on their applications, had their mentors and admins all set up, good ideas page, and they were turned down, often with no obvious umbrella organization to turn to (implying even more work with no guarantee of getting into GSoC). By contrast, I just think it's shameful (for Emacs and GNU) that students are quite obviously doing mentors' work on this list.