From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: don't show the $-bar that indicates text before and/or after the window view, horizontally Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 09:52:45 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87ppu7qdo2.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> References: <87ehap9mam.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87k3kfx4sh.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <51f00beb$0$2060$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <87wqof27ae.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <871a4299-aefc-4982-b90f-ef3f4d3b2176@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1374738914 11961 80.91.229.3 (25 Jul 2013 07:55:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 07:55:14 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 25 09:55:17 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V2GOL-0003ae-LT for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 09:55:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39985 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V2GOL-0000vA-B4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 03:55:17 -0400 X-Received: by 10.180.24.138 with SMTP id u10mr432511wif.4.1374738780113; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 00:53:00 -0700 (PDT) X-FeedAbuse: http://nntpfeed.proxad.net/abuse.pl feeded by 88.191.116.97 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!gf3no4441226wic.0!news-out.google.com!md6ni81581wic.0!nntp.google.com!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!nntpfeed.proxad.net!dedibox.gegeweb.org!gegeweb.eu!gegeweb.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 42 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: SWN/nubmpQxYKwY7hPy4YA.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:rTplUtReNLwdYtYsPMRbnt5sQhw= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:200118 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:92384 Archived-At: Rustom Mody writes: >> (At this point, I'd suggest to invest some time in reading the >> manuals, because messing with such advanced stuff is not >> recommended if you don't even know what the fringes are, how to >> control them, and what is slot zero of the >> standard-display-table.) > > Even after teaching CS for nearly 3 decades, I continue to find > unsettling the mercilessness with which the Dunning-Kruger > effect strikes the unwary. What is the Dunning-Kruger effect? Wikipedia: > The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled > individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating > their ability much higher than average. This bias is attributed > to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their > mistakes. Well, well! Are you going to keep this up, guys?! I asked a question on technology, and got a couple of answers. Since then, you are doing your worst insulting me. OK, Mody: 1) I have a degree in CS myself, probably not as fancy as yours, but fancy enough to know this is not CS, but CP (computer practice). You can't pull rank. 2) And, I happen to be a teacher myself. And the *one* thing I always encourage my students is: be *active* with your material! Think, write, draw, ask, answer, juggle. You, on the other hand: when I ask how to hide the $ sign - which is doable with *one* line of Elisp, a solution which worked instantly, and in the process brought clarity to another thing I didn't know, namely fringes - you think this illusory superiority, of an unskilled individual? I hope for your students sake this is not how you treat them. -- Emanuel Berg - programmer (hire me! CV below) computer projects: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 internet activity: http://home.student.uu.se/embe8573