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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:47:14 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:77843 Archived-At: This bug report will be sent to the Bug-GNU-Emacs mailing list and the GNU bug tracker at debbugs.gnu.org. Please check that the From: line contains a valid email address. After a delay of up to one day, you should receive an acknowledgment at that address. There is "Games" position in "Tools" menu. I'm not sure if it should belong to this menu. It should be removed or accessible as something optional. Another problem is that in "Tools" menu there are toggle type buttons such as: - Project Support (EDE) - Source Code Parsers (Semantic) These options are not "tools". They do nothing functional. They are just turning some features on and off but have no immediate functional meaning. Another problem is that we have more similar options to add ther and this could turn into an extensible and almost unlimited list of external features available to turn on and off. We could add positions such as: - Code Browser - Code Snippets - Syntax Checking etc. Then we will get a long and hard to navigate list of toggle buttons which belong to "Options" menu rather than to "Tools". Another solution is to move this list to submenu. For example: "Tools" -> "Features >> " In GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.6.4) of 2013-08-22 on menkib, modified by Debian Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11303000 System Description: Ubuntu 13.04 Configured using: `configure '--build' 'x86_64-linux-gnu' '--build' 'x86_64-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--localstatedir=/var/lib' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=yes' '--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs24:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/24.3/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/24.3/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp' '--with-crt-dir=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu' '--with-x=yes' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk3' '--with-toolkit-scroll-bars' 'build_alias=x86_64-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-g -O2 -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Werror=format-security -Wall' 'LDFLAGS=-Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -Wl,-z,relro' 'CPPFLAGS=-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2'' Important settings: value of $LANG: pl_PL.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t -- Marcin Antczak http://www.neutrico.pl